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Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by wkat4242 »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #140
coredog64 wrote: post #135

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Minor nit: These days I think Ads has taken over as the golden goose, but that doesn’t diminish the contributions of AWS.

Is that why Amazon's product search is terrible? Because it's more profitable for them when I scroll through 5 pages of junk than if I can navigate immediately to the thing I want?

Yes because the sellers of that junk pay them to put it there. And most people give up and buy some of that. If it didn't work they wouldn't do it.

Cory Doctorow covered this specific phenomenon in his great article that coined the term enshittification.

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by mrg3_2013 »

int_19h wrote: post #144
xnx wrote: post #108

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Maybe. The major models seem to be about tied in terms of quality right now, so cost and ease of use (e.g. you already have an AWS account set up for billing) could be a differentiator.

The major models are not tied in terms of quality. GPT-4 and GPT-o1 still beat everyone else by a significant margin on tasks that require in-depth reasoning. There's a reason why people just don't go for the cheapest option, whatever the benchmarks say.

Exactly. Citing cost has been an AWS play which worked during early days of cloud - so they are trying to stick to those plays. They don't work in AI world. No one would want a faster/cheap model that gives poor results (besides the cost of frontier model keeps coming down - so these are just dead initiative IMO).

On LLM, my experience with Claude has been much better than OpenAI models (though my use case is more on code generation)

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by jdmg94 »

ndr_ wrote: post #125
fumeux_fume wrote: post #120

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This appears to be a way to steal and harvest aws credentials. No one should be following any of these steps.

Do you have any evidence for this accusation? This is a guide for the casual observer who wants to try things out, given that getting started with other AI platforms is so much more straightforward. It's all open source, with transparent hosting, catering to any remaining concerns someone interested in exactly that may have.

I work at Amazon, you don't need to follow this steps to use bedrock. You. Are. Shameless

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by ygouzerh »

zapnuk wrote: post #49

They missed a big opportunity by not offering eu-hosted versions. Thats a big thing for complience. All LLM-providers reserve the right to save (up to 30days) and inspect/check prompts for their own complience. However, this means that company data is potentionally sotred out-of-cloud. This is already problematic, even more so when the storage location is outside the EU.

They might not have enough GPUs datacenters in Europe

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by Tepix »

physicsguy wrote: post #131
Tepix wrote: post #61

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I'm not sure if hosting it in the EU will do any good for Amazon, there's still the US CLOUD Act: It doesn't really matter where the data is located.

It makes a really big difference for anyone doing business in Europe though. Legally we're only allowed to use text-embeddings-3-large at work because Azure don't host text-embeddings-3-small within a European region.

Perhaps your legal department is ignoring the US CLOUD act?

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Post by gregw2 »

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #92
oblio wrote: post #77

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Once upon a time there were (and still are) mainframes (and SAP is similar in this respect). These insular systems came with their own tools, their own ecosystem, their own terminology, their own certifications, etc. And you could rent compute & co on them. If you think of clouds as being cross continent mainframes, a lot more things make a more sense.

"distributed mainframes".

or "internet OS with bundled hardware"

Re: Amazon Nova

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Post by metzpapa »

ndr_ wrote: post #74

Setting up AWS so you can try it via Amazon Bedrock API is a hassle, so I made a step-by-step guide: https://ndurner.github.io/amazon-nova . It's 14+ steps!

You can set up AWS in less than 5 minutes...
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