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What do you mean with MAPs? Sorry, haven't seen the acronym before.
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Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws
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#153If you’re tempted to think “this isn’t worth it, too hard to enforce without affecting something else”… read “The Anxious Generation” by Jonathan Haidt. There is very real, irreparable harm being done to young people, and it merits trying to make it right, not just surrendering to it. Surely the problem of verifying a property of someone (the Boolean of “is over X age”) without sharing further details, is a surmounta…
The Anxious Generation is poorly researched pop science book that people believe to be true because it feels intuitively right to them.
Is this just your opinion, or is there a scientific retort I can read?
Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws
#154If you’re tempted to think “this isn’t worth it, too hard to enforce without affecting something else”… read “The Anxious Generation” by Jonathan Haidt. There is very real, irreparable harm being done to young people, and it merits trying to make it right, not just surrendering to it. Surely the problem of verifying a property of someone (the Boolean of “is over X age”) without sharing further details, is a surmounta…
Frankly I want Australia to go ahead with this law so the rest of us can have a test case for it. If it works well we can copy it with tweaks. If not, then we know to seek other options.
What is the acceptance criteria for this test case?
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#155I wonder if we should even call this social media at this point. More like interactive TV 3.0. All the feeds are heavily ad infested and “promoted” content appears from “infliences” .. some people shadow banned while others artificially boosted up your feed.
All designed to maximize your attention but also sway your opinion.
The social part of social media seems to have gone mostly by the wayside.
“Did you see the new dance this one kid did in Texas” like like, hashtag, loved it , repost, etc … not really building much of a social relationship, or perhaps it is and just seems a bit off to us older folks,
Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws
#156Re: Australia: Kids under 16 to be banned from social media after Senate passes laws
#157If you’re tempted to think “this isn’t worth it, too hard to enforce without affecting something else”… read “The Anxious Generation” by Jonathan Haidt. There is very real, irreparable harm being done to young people, and it merits trying to make it right, not just surrendering to it. Surely the problem of verifying a property of someone (the Boolean of “is over X age”) without sharing further details, is a surmounta…
Frankly I want Australia to go ahead with this law so the rest of us can have a test case for it. If it works well we can copy it with tweaks. If not, then we know to seek other options.
It will not work and this is exactly why it will be copied.
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#158Like the spirit, dislike the execution. Passing legislation to “protect the kids” is politically easy. Bans are simple. Much more effective, IMO, would be to legislate the way social networks behave. Stop their most addictive patterns. Adults are just as susceptible as kids in my experience. If there needs to be anything kid specific, perhaps a block on using the service during school hours, or only for X hours a day…
Well when then fuck are social media companies going to take their responsibility seriously?
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#159My thoughts immediately go to all the queer kids in rural areas who stand to be cut off from the only support networks they have.
> My thoughts immediately go to all the queer kids in rural areas who stand to be cut off from the only support networks they have I shared those concerns at first - as that was similar to my situation (though less lgbt+ but more just on-the-spectrum stuff), but if the article is correct then I find myself strongly in support (so-far...): my impression is that this is targeting the kinds of vacuous mass-market "engag…
> I shared those concerns at first - as that was similar to my situation (though less lgbt+ but more just on-the-spectrum stuff)
The catch is, unfortunately, that our social media data trails make it all to feasible to detect which of us is on the spectrum using machine learning.
And which if our kids have what is vulgarly called "daddy issues."
And which of us are beginning to succumb to schizophrenia.
We've only begun to see the creepy dystopian consequences of centrally archived social media.
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#160If you’re tempted to think “this isn’t worth it, too hard to enforce without affecting something else”… read “The Anxious Generation” by Jonathan Haidt. There is very real, irreparable harm being done to young people, and it merits trying to make it right, not just surrendering to it. Surely the problem of verifying a property of someone (the Boolean of “is over X age”) without sharing further details, is a surmounta…
> Surely the problem of verifying a property of someone (the Boolean of “is over X age”) without sharing further details, is a surmountable problem given all the cryptographic technologies at our disposal. Only if preserving privacy is the goal and I'm sure we both know it isn't.
I guess it will become self-fulfilling if everyone denies that there are privacy friendly options. Legislatures globally are starting to take this seriously so chances are it's happening one way or another.