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London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by renewiltord »

Entertaining. Everyone wants more housing but no one wants to give up anything for more housing. I love it! Haha, imagine making one's bed a certain way, lying in it, then complaining they didn't like it and then making it the same way the next night. Pure magic.

In America, we do this by running our ports artisanally. Residents of this nation pay billions for the privilege of 50,000 manually handling containers in the old way: refined, traditional and not by soulless automation. England would do well to learn from our dedication to the past.

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Post by bradleyjg »

hnbear wrote: post #24

Statement from the City of London Corporation which is closing them down: > Chris Hayward, policy chairman of the City of London Corporation, said the > decision represented a "positive new chapter" for the markets as it "empowers > traders to build a sustainable future in premises that align with their > long-term business goals". This is a great statement. Like firing people to free them up to find jobs that better…

If I’m reading the article correctly they need parliament’s permission (“private bill”).

Write your MP.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by justincormack »

piltdownman wrote: post #110
hi_hi wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My running route would take me through the market in the mornings, only a few hours after it had closed up. I loved the smell of meat, which others would find quite offensive. It's a lovely area, and home to one of my favourite restaurants, St Johns.

Not only is it home to St.John's as a restaurant, it is a geographical catalyst to a whole slow-food movement based on the food-markets proximity and the usage of offal and bone marrow by the gentleman and genius, Fergus Henderson. Bourdain was a great pal and admirer, describing him as 'the most influential chef of the last two decades' https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/aug/17/st-john...

Not sure he buys from the market though.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by roughly »

Hilift wrote: post #117
roughly wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Christ, yeah - I came here to post the same quote. What kind of horrific shit does one need to go through in life to become capable of uttering that kind of horseshit with a straight face?

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It always amuses me when people respond with some completely unrelated personal hobby horse like this. There’s nothing at all in my comment in any way related to driving or congestion fees, not even if you squint a whole lot, and no way in which this comment ties into anything at all I said, even if I squint a whole lot.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by refulgentis »

forgetfreeman wrote: post #146
refulgentis wrote: post #67

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I'm more than open to reading anything about that! Literally anything! Most respectfully and deferentially, I don't think "more things available makes price goes down" is a platitude or textbook or academic thing! I must confess, the fact this Fat Tony logic and not some theory invented in an academic textbook ivory-tower divorced-from-reality impoverished-intellectual safe haven is why I cannot provide a proof: the…

> I'm more than open to reading anything about that! Literally anything! Great! Start paying attention to real estate and rental prices in areas near "mixed use" development projects and urban multi-story housing construction, literally the projects that are billed by politicians as addressing housing shortages and you'll find my point bore out pretty plainly. > I don't think "more things available makes price goes d…

Ah okay, you made it up :)

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Post by bradleyjg »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #49
labster wrote: post #46

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Why stop there? Why not revoke the City’s charter altogether?

The City of London isn't legally reliant on a charter. It draws existence from 'Time Immemorial'. Specifically it exists because it existed before 1189

The King-in-Parliament can abrogate common law.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by justincormack »

hi_hi wrote: post #7
paxys wrote: post #4

> The original market first traded in Lower Thames Street in the City in 1327, before moving to its current site in Poplar, east London, in 1982. So the "850 year old" food market is actually a 42 year old market, and will likely continue to operate from a different location as it has done many times in the past.

No, this was a bit confusing. I think this may have been talking about Billingsgate, the fish market. Smithfields is a meat market, and has been at that site in one form or another for hundreds of years. Edit, to help clarify as other comments also appear to get this wrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smithfield,_London#Market

Yes, the original fish market building is an events dpace now I think.

Re: London's 850-year-old food markets to close

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Post by Earw0rm »

tempusalaria wrote: post #127
walterbell wrote: post #8

Need a City quant PhD to invent a mathematical analog of Black-Scholes [1] for pricing and trading the irreplaceable value of culturally significant physical spaces to future generations. Then City-like [2] institutions can compete financially for ongoing preservation rights, rather than a one-time chop shop auction. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black%E2%80%93Scholes_model [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_…

The reality is that these are not culturally significant institutions and most people in London don’t care. Ordinary Londoners rarely use these markets, and they mostly sell to restaurants, and require major financial support. Not everything from the past is good. We don’t still run coal power plants in London just to get that historic smog. They were already planning to move both markets way out of central London (t…

Mostly agree, Londoners go to Borough if they're rich or the many local farmer's markets on the weekend. You'd have to admit, the not providing a new site thing is kind of shoddy though?

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Post by Angostura »

asveikau wrote: post #121
wbl wrote: post #107

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Not to be confused with the Lord Mayor of London.

I think a lot of people who don't know much about London are surprised that the City of London is quite small and not what people generally mean when they say "London".

AKA "The Square Mile"
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