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Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by throwaway425933 »

notyourwork wrote: post #117
Koala_ice wrote: post #14

I thoroughyl expect the Deparment of Government Efficiency to recommend U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) be shut down to save previous taxpayer dollars.

Am I the only one that is not excited about the next four years being constant banter of this nature? I loathe it. Nothing personal against your comment but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

>> but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

Well, it cuts both ways. New administration should not be talking till they are in office.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by roughly »

Kiro wrote: post #75
akira2501 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> every ICE vehicle feels painfully sluggish and slow. You don't do much towing, do you?

99.9% of drivers will never tow anything in their life.

Not that one could tell by their vehicle choice, of course.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by zer8k »

notyourwork wrote: post #117
Koala_ice wrote: post #14

I thoroughyl expect the Deparment of Government Efficiency to recommend U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) be shut down to save previous taxpayer dollars.

Am I the only one that is not excited about the next four years being constant banter of this nature? I loathe it. Nothing personal against your comment but the new administration hasn't even gone into office and I cannot get away from this.

These people have been inundated with the drivel of a billion dollar propaganda machine run by the most expensive campaign in history.

It's gonna take a while before they're back to normal again. I've heard so many "office of government efficiency" jokes in the last week I am tired of it too. But, in their defense if all you hear is how this administration is going to be the fourth reich (lol), destroy the country (lol), introduce fascism (lol), kill people (lol), etc you're going to react in a sarcastic way to anything you can grasp onto.

Though tbf, again, "office of government efficiency" seems like an oxymoron.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by HeatrayEnjoyer »

peppertree wrote: post #15

I suspect the biggest factor is speed. After getting used to EV for over a year, every ICE vehicle feels painfully sluggish and slow. If that's the case I'm curious to see how the numbers compare to other EVs.

I heard EVs are very heavy, how can they be faster?

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by mrguyorama »

sombrero_john wrote: post #124
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #106

I remember some car collision data that showed that men were more likely to get into any collision and women were more likely to get into a fatal collision. A comment I read about the study suggested the conclusion that men take more risks while women take bigger risks. It's interesting to think in that context about this. Could Tesla drivers be taking bigger risks because they think the car's software will save them…

> A comment I read about the study suggested the conclusion that men take more risks while women take bigger risks. Or women's weaker musculoskeletal systems provide less protection against blunt force trauma?

If you look into car safety testing and design, they haven't used "Woman sized" crash test dummies until very very recently.

Cars were less safe for women because they were not designed to be safe for women.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by mrguyorama »

Petersipoi wrote: post #68
phony-account wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Teslas can go fast real fast, so naively this is the result I would expect given how they have filtered the data. In other words, unless they controlled for this… Explain to me why you would want to filter out fatalities caused by going “real fast”?

Because comparing the fatality rate of a Corolla going 50mph and a Tesla going 90mph is useless to a person who wants a car that is safe when driven responsibly.

Corollas can easily go 90mph, so can a Prius, so can a dodge neon.

Even eco-shitboxes in the US have 160 hp. Sure, they get 0-60 times of 10 seconds, but I don't think there's been a car model in the US that cannot reach 100mph in decades

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by zer8k »

weaksauce wrote: post #140
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have already announced what they are going to do, with the pro-Trump side saying he's not serious or will mellow out the plan before he takes office, and the anti-Trump side saying he will do exactly what he says he's going to do. Basically a repeat of 2016.

not a repeat of 2016 at all. he's got every lever of the government at his disposal. stacked supreme court, three branches of government on his side. hiring the worst people for every job possible and hiring only for fealty to him. this will be much worse than 2016.

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Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

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Post by GuB-42 »

kevinqi wrote: post #47
legitster wrote: post #3

In a big picture, this makes sense. You can load the cars with safety features, but it doesn't change the fact that these cars are very heavy, very fast, and loaded with features that reward distracted driving. In the US at least, the top killer of drivers are trees on the side of the road.

Aside from the distracted driving part, which is real, there are two physical aspects of the model 3 that I find to be safety issues as well-- the two front windshield beams are thick and add a sort of blind spot, and the side mirrors don't give you great field of view.

It is a problem with most modern cars, and it is actually for safety reasons. These beams have to support the entire weight of the car in case it flips over in order to protect the occupants.
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