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Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by cryptozeus »

throwaway4736 wrote: post #138
cryptozeus wrote: post #94

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They make mistake and they also come out and apologize or call it out when they are wrong. No one is 100% correct all the time. You have never made mistake or said something wrong when having discussion with your friends ? They are not running this as a educational channel , its a podcast where 4 friends chit chat.

Ha. Imagine believing this. Yeah, please let me know when Chamath corrects the record on the topic in question. These guys are charlatans. These lying idiots have absolutely no shame in misleading you, and you are falling for it. “Oh, it’s just entertainment. Oh, it’s just opinion. Oh, you shouldn’t take them seriously.” No. Absolutely not. I refuse to give them a pass. We have to stop normalizing this behavior. Ethi…

Lol good for you! Don’t watch it. Be the moral police, see how that works out. This is the reason moderates are pushed into right side.

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by [deleted] »

cryptozeus wrote: post #151
throwaway4736 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha. Imagine believing this. Yeah, please let me know when Chamath corrects the record on the topic in question. These guys are charlatans. These lying idiots have absolutely no shame in misleading you, and you are falling for it. “Oh, it’s just entertainment. Oh, it’s just opinion. Oh, you shouldn’t take them seriously.” No. Absolutely not. I refuse to give them a pass. We have to stop normalizing this behavior. Ethi…

Lol good for you! Don’t watch it. Be the moral police, see how that works out. This is the reason moderates are pushed into right side.

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Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by llamaimperative »

cryptozeus wrote: post #151
throwaway4736 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha. Imagine believing this. Yeah, please let me know when Chamath corrects the record on the topic in question. These guys are charlatans. These lying idiots have absolutely no shame in misleading you, and you are falling for it. “Oh, it’s just entertainment. Oh, it’s just opinion. Oh, you shouldn’t take them seriously.” No. Absolutely not. I refuse to give them a pass. We have to stop normalizing this behavior. Ethi…

Lol good for you! Don’t watch it. Be the moral police, see how that works out. This is the reason moderates are pushed into right side.

You are aware that most moral and ethical codes in a free society are enforced by people saying, "hey pal, that seems mighty improper," right? Don't be a crybaby.

"If you keep telling people it's bad to lie, I'm going to change my political views! *harumph*" is an impressive self-own.

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by avs733 »

thinkharderdev wrote: post #124
toephu2 wrote: post #111

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What government data did they misinterpret? They correctly stated that the job numbers always get revised down not up. They also correctly stated that the GDP growth in the last quarter was largely driven by government spend, and if you take out the private sector, there was little growth.

> They also correctly stated that the GDP growth in the last quarter was largely driven by government spend, and if you take out the private sector, there was little growth. The entire article is pointing out quite clearly that this, in fact, not correct. > They correctly stated that the job numbers always get revised down not up. This is also demonstrably false with like 5 minutes of research. This is all a matter o…

But if you already believe it the facts can still support it even if they are wrong. They feel right.

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by prng2021 »

I’m glad this author wrote this up. The guys in All-In really need to be called out for all their bs.

Here’s episode 191 Aug 9, 2024 where Chamath is talking about a Google breakup possibility:

“The big O outcome though is more if you go back to the Ma Bell kind of thing where the company gets broken up. I think that the odds of that are extremely unlikely. I think the big O outcome is probably something that you can pretty safely take off the table.”

And here’s episode 199 Oct 11, 2024 where the host rewrites history:

“We have an update on the DOJ's antitrust suit with Google. It looks like they're going for the break up as Chamath predicted”

What??

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by flappyeagle »

eschaton wrote: post #128
secabeen wrote: post #119

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> I think that voter ID laws are probably fine. I'm in a state that has them, and I suspect that I would feel weird if the requirement were repealed. > I don't know if IDs are free in all states, but if they are, I would be more inclined to support it as a requirement for voting. The IDs being free is good, but not sufficient. The ID issuing organization also must be funded sufficiently to provide comprehensive acces…

And you can be absolutely certain it won’t be, because the reason for Voter ID laws is to disenfranchise people that the people making the laws don’t want to vote.

Are we sure the effect will be what we assume? Don’t democrats skew more educated and higher income at this point

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by 78653644 »

briantakita wrote: post #134
coolspot wrote: post #105

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Voter ID laws do, in fact, just make sense.

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"I tried to be civil, but people didn't like what I had to say. Rather than asking why they disagree, I'm going to assume they're evil criminals."

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by eschaton »

flappyeagle wrote: post #156
eschaton wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you can be absolutely certain it won’t be, because the reason for Voter ID laws is to disenfranchise people that the people making the laws don’t want to vote.

Are we sure the effect will be what we assume? Don’t democrats skew more educated and higher income at this point

Yes, because it’s not “Democrats” that the far right wants to prevent from voting, it’s anyone poor or from an ethnic minority, who often happen not to have as much access to a DMV or other facility in which they can obtain an ID.

Elsewhere in the thread is mentioned the predominantly-Black county that has a DMV only open one day a month. Why do you think that is?

Re: Learning not to trust the All-In podcast

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Post by TeaBrain »

prng2021 wrote: post #155

I’m glad this author wrote this up. The guys in All-In really need to be called out for all their bs. Here’s episode 191 Aug 9, 2024 where Chamath is talking about a Google breakup possibility: “The big O outcome though is more if you go back to the Ma Bell kind of thing where the company gets broken up. I think that the odds of that are extremely unlikely. I think the big O outcome is probably something that you can…

I think Chamath is guilty of this to a degree that far exceeds the others. Chamath regularly states misconceptions about economic data, but with extreme confidence as if he's a macro econ subject matter expert. I think Friedberg should get some credit for often calling him out on what Chamath is confidently mouthing off about. In a recent episode, I think Friedberg just started laughing after he realized breaking through to Chamath would be impossible.
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