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Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by tredre3 »

yboris wrote: post #61
skydhash wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's more like 400MB due to how they're packaged. And when you could have it run with 10x to 20x less RAM, it just scream "we don't care about you". Not everyone have 64GB RAM and 22 cores of CPU in their laptop. It's like using a semi-truck (with the trailer attached) to go buy groceries 100 meters away.

I'm unsure where I'm supposed to look. In the Task Manager, the app I created (Video Hub App), when running, is routinely between 40MB and 120MB under the "Memory" column. Are you saying there is RAM use tucked away under different row than the app name? https://github.com/whyboris/Video-Hub-App

Your app uses 150MB of ram upon launch.

It peaks to around 3GB during the hub creation (on a folder with ~100 videos but I see your demo is limited to 50).

It finally settles at 350MB.

Here's the breakdown: https://ibb.co/N9MYvNx

My guess is that what you view in your task manager is a single process, not all the processes started by your application.

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by edm0nd »

Shawnecy wrote: post #58
result2vino wrote: post #35

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That's an awfully cynical take to call Linux desktop a dumpster fire.

99% of the time its always someone who has never actually used a proper Linux desktop OS lol and/or someone who couldnt even figure out how to list files on a Linux terminal.

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by runako »

Nesco wrote: post #37
Nesco wrote: post #30

On macOS, why have an electron app when you can add the webpage to the dock as a PWA?

Here is the comparison: Claude Electron app vs Claude Safari PWA Pros: * Can be opened with a customizable shortcut * Takes less RAM (400 MiB Cons: * Needs to be downloaded * Weight 150 MiB * Slower to start * Loose language localisation * Loose Safari's capabilities: - Printing the content of the current page - Speech2Text - Accessibility - ...

I suppose I use the PWA differently than most people? I just leave it open all the time, so I don't care how long it takes to start or how much data it takes to download to boot.

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by miguelspizza »

lambdaba wrote: post #32
stephencoyner wrote: post #31

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Native desktop apps give these companies access to more system-level functions which will be super useful for... - Voice dictation / interactions - Agents accessing other applications and controlling your desktop - Agents performing background tasks like continuous monitoring, periodic data processing, or ongoing analysis I would expect to see these kind of features start to take off next year

Oh I agree, but this is definitely not it, I don't understand why Anthropic released this, other than squatting the same keyboard shortcut the ChatGPT app uses, with no ability to change it :P.

Chat UIs are really the perfect candidate for a localfirst PWA. I have no idea why they are being built as either a full desktop app or UI where nothing is stored on device.

You’d think with all the funding these companies have they’d make better technical decisions

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by xyc »

zaptheimpaler wrote: post #119

Tangentially, what are people using to have a unified interface to query multiple LLMs? Juggling multiple apps or websites for each provider gets annoying. I was using openrouter but the chat history is only stored in browser, so I'm looking for something else now. I tried open-webui[1] and that looks pretty good but I wonder if there are better alternatives. [1] https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui

Give https://recurse.chat/ a try - I'm the developer. One particular advantage over alternative apps is importing ChatGPT history and speed of the app, including full-text search. You can import your thousands of conversations and every chat loads instantly.

We also recently added floating chat feature. Check out the demo: https://x.com/recursechat/status/1846309980091330815

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by miguelspizza »

Nesco wrote: post #37
Nesco wrote: post #30

On macOS, why have an electron app when you can add the webpage to the dock as a PWA?

Here is the comparison: Claude Electron app vs Claude Safari PWA Pros: * Can be opened with a customizable shortcut * Takes less RAM (400 MiB Cons: * Needs to be downloaded * Weight 150 MiB * Slower to start * Loose language localisation * Loose Safari's capabilities: - Printing the content of the current page - Speech2Text - Accessibility - ...

It’s such a poorly designed PWA. They really failed to take advantage of any of the browsers storage mechanisms. Like why not put conversation history in indexedDB?

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by xyc »

xyc wrote: post #156
zaptheimpaler wrote: post #119

Tangentially, what are people using to have a unified interface to query multiple LLMs? Juggling multiple apps or websites for each provider gets annoying. I was using openrouter but the chat history is only stored in browser, so I'm looking for something else now. I tried open-webui[1] and that looks pretty good but I wonder if there are better alternatives. [1] https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui

Give https://recurse.chat/ a try - I'm the developer. One particular advantage over alternative apps is importing ChatGPT history and speed of the app, including full-text search. You can import your thousands of conversations and every chat loads instantly. We also recently added floating chat feature. Check out the demo: https://x.com/recursechat/status/1846309980091330815

Regarding chat history, I've been thinking that people should have ownership over chat history. We are migrating the chats towards SQLite, so your data is going to be a timeless format like files* - SQLite has long term support through year 2050. https://www.sqlite.org/lts.html

* See [File over app](https://stephango.com/file-over-app).

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by LeoPanthera »

grantcarthew wrote: post #139

I'm using AnythingLLM for this now. https://anythingllm.com/ MIT License on GitHub This week it got the X.ai API added which is what I'm using. Grok is not as good as Claude or ChatGPT yet, but don't bet against Elon. https://x.com/ServeTheHome/status/1850917031421399543 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1830650370336473253 It's the desktop solution I've been looking for. If you have a heap of prompts, you can create a W…

Is there something like AnythingLLM that is a Mac native application?

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by layoric »

cxvrfr wrote: post #80
layoric wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hardly a dumpster fire, moving to Linux from Windows is by far the best thing I’ve done for my work and sanity using a computer. For macOS users might be less of a reason, but aside from video editing workflow, has been a smooth process, and highly recommended for devs to give it another go.

Tried OpenSUSE recently. They describe 3 different ways on how to install Nvidia drivers in their docs. Not a single worked, had to install manually (which kinds of beats the entire purpose of using a rolling distro). Could try something else but seem but slightly like a waste of time. Also the DE situation seems pretty bad... KDE would seem alright but its buggy and unpolished. Gnome is an abomination designed for t…

For laptop, I personally don't know, only did a brief test on my backup system and seemed fine. However, Linux + Nvidia desktop has been good to me so far through many driver upgrades all through the standard 22.04 repositories (PopOS!, AMD AM4 Ryzen + 4070). Games work, dev tooling is amazing, and its _quiet_. I don't mean audibly, I mean process/notifications wise. On Windows my fans would spin up when I had nothing running, and it was some BS windows service I never wanted or used (telemetry, indexing, other), or MS trying to sell me something. PopOS! is lightning fast as I don't want fancy animations, just highly responsive computing.

If I was to go with a laptop (I doubt I will switch), I'd go with a Framework or System76.

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