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Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by bastawhiz »

wokwokwok wrote: post #128
davidczech wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the same machine used for milkshakes? That's kind of staple of burger joints.

Yeah, but the point is that MacDonalds obviously doesn’t want to sell icecream. Maybe it’s low margin. Maybe cleaning is expensive. Maybe it helps having the promise of cheap ice cream but “sorry not right now” leading customers to buy other (more expensive) items. It’s not an incompetent organisation. If they wanted the machines to work, they would work. They don’t. So… if anything changes out of this, it will be to…

McDonald's also has no problem phasing out items from its menu. It does so with regularity. Why keep something on the menu that it doesn't want to sell? It either wants to sell it or it doesn't want to sell it.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by devilbunny »

lostlogin wrote: post #116
userbinator wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guess how the majority of farmers and rural folk wanting to fix their own equipment are leaning politically. Also the automotive aftermarket.

Assuming the people vote for the party that would help them the most would be unwise.

Assuming you know more about what people need than they do is also unwise. For starters, “MyParty(TM) is better for you, you’re just too dumb to realize it” is not a particularly effective campaign strategy. Both major US parties have tried it.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by xp84 »

majormajor wrote: post #135
PedroBatista wrote: post #93

Does anyone else thinks this is actually a great incidental marketing campaign for McDonald's? Not only the free reach but also tons of people discussing the "problems" with a big co and how to "fix" them as they are an essential part of society, and this case ice-creams. Sure we focus on the big brain things like copyright, business malpractice and MBA lore but with it comes McDonald's embedded. I know this might so…

Either the McDonalds by me is fairly lucky or this is far less common than the meme makes it out to be. It doesn't seem like good marketing - I hadn't had it in years but wanted to try a promo mcflurry a couple years ago, and wasn't expecting it to work, which make me wonder if I shouldn't even bother going. That's the opposite of what they'd want. But then I went, and have gone probably a couple dozen times since th…

> lucky

Perhaps the “good” McDonaldses (in terms of whether they have broken machines all the time or not) are that way because they faithfully and promptly throw the requested amount of money at the Taylor licensed service providers to fix it every single time it throws its error code of doom. So we wouldn’t know how common the avoidable issues are without seeing, not just the downtime stats, but the authorized service records.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by xp84 »

rjbwork wrote: post #139
gruez wrote: post #130

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>because the people that control McDonalds corporate also have shares in the ice cream machine vendor and use it as an additional vector to squeeze franchisees for their own enrichment? Source?

I'm mostly just being playful with a fun conspiracy theory. But, McDonald's and Middleby (current parent company of Taylor), are both publicly traded. Previous parent companies of Taylor were also publicly traded. It's not inconceivable - it wouldn't make sense to intentionally use a low quality product or intentionally cause service calls because of the decrease in revenue for McDonalds. But it would make sense to m…

> decrease in revenue for McDonalds.

It’s not a major problem for McDonald’s Inc. though! They don’t sell McFlurries! They lease buildings and land, and they do collect a 4% royalty on sales. But the franchisee loses the other 96% of the revenue and has to pay 100% of the “authorized Taylor repair” bill. So it’s a much bigger problem for them, and a moral hazard for McDonald’s to be able to force the store owners to use the overpriced and supposedly unnecessary (other than due to digital locks) Taylor service offerings.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by asveikau »

paradox460 wrote: post #124
lostlogin wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming the people vote for the party that would help them the most would be unwise.

Remind me which party signed the DMCA into law after it passed the house unanimously

Remind me what party had the house and senate when DMCA passed...

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by floam »

starkparker wrote: post #140

Buried deep down: > Video Game Accessibility: > Unfortunately, the exemption allowing circumvention of digital locks on video games for accessibility purposes (introduced in 2021) was not renewed. No petition for renewal was submitted, and as a result, individuals with disabilities who need alternative input methods to play video games are left out.

With games it seems like accessibility allowances would be dual-use, making it easier to cheat or make a bot.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by samatman »

wokwokwok wrote: post #128
davidczech wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the same machine used for milkshakes? That's kind of staple of burger joints.

Yeah, but the point is that MacDonalds obviously doesn’t want to sell icecream. Maybe it’s low margin. Maybe cleaning is expensive. Maybe it helps having the promise of cheap ice cream but “sorry not right now” leading customers to buy other (more expensive) items. It’s not an incompetent organisation. If they wanted the machines to work, they would work. They don’t. So… if anything changes out of this, it will be to…

The original McDonald's menu had nine items. One was a milkshake.

This is never going to happen.

Re: We can now fix McDonald's ice cream machines

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Post by afavour »

devilbunny wrote: post #152
lostlogin wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming the people vote for the party that would help them the most would be unwise.

Assuming you know more about what people need than they do is also unwise. For starters, “MyParty(TM) is better for you, you’re just too dumb to realize it” is not a particularly effective campaign strategy. Both major US parties have tried it.

I didn't see the OP campaigning, just stating fact. People vote against their personal interests when convinced to do so. I don't think that's a particularly controversial statement.
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