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Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Of all things my taxes go to, I would love it the United States Government would buy the patent for this drug and make it freely available to anybody who wants it. The number of things it apparently just cures is staggering.

God save us if a non US company is successful, or -gasp- profitable.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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how long did you keep drinking after starting? thanks for response

No prob. I noticed that I did not want to drink the day after my first shot. It was that fast. If anything the closest I came to drinking came from routine, not desire. That is to say, what is an afternoon watching football if not with a beer in hand? But I was able to move past that. One thing I should make clear, no matter how heavy a drinker I have been at times in my life, including with liquor, I have never had…

Did you have any withdrawal symptoms after stopping alcohol so suddenly?

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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what could go wrong with screwing with the neurochemical reward system of the entire population We already know what can go wrong. We already did that decades and decades ago. Sugar, for example. Aside from so many foods being laced with it, you can now simply walk into a store and buy a kilogram of sugar and eat it. So many other examples. That ship sailed a long long time ago. All we can do now is nudge the dial th…

Because you can buy sugar from the store, having the US subsidize ozempic for for the entire population makes logical sense. Got it.

That's not even close to what he said.

He's saying we already have completely fucked our reward system.

That's why 75%+ of American are literally eating themselves to death. And they can't stop. And no, "discipline" isn't a solution.

If anything, I'd say Ozempic brings our reward systems to be more in line with modern reality. Monkey brain doesn't work when you have the unhealthiest food available constantly at your finger tips.

Regardless of your stance on anything, it should be obvious we have a HUGE problem. I'm sorry, but a "do nothing and hope it works" approach is now off the table. We need real, tangible solutions. Not moral grandstanding.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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According to this article, it's been (sorta) reproduced once, which is better than most studies. About 40-60% of scientific studies are not reproducible. Given that, I'd want to see more reproductions. Also, I'm very annoyed by our American culture which tries to fix problems with drugs, rather than preventing them from happening in the first place with good diet, exercise, sleep and stress management.

I agree with your sentiment, but frankly human nature just doesn’t work that way. We don’t have self control. We weren’t evolved for a world of abundance. This is no one’s fault, and it’s everywhere, china is getting fatter than most countries now. Realistically, ozempic is a miracle and it seems to be a solution to numerous issues of our world. It would be nice if it wasn’t so, but apart from the 10% of people who c…

Lol, no. There are countries in which obesity is nonexistent.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Because other interventions have the consequence of actually working. If we compare the efficacy of "telling people to lose weight" vs taking ozempic, there is a stark contrast. Pooled results show that education and counselling[sic] did not significantly reduce weight (SMD –0.73, 95% CI –1.89 to 0.42, n = 3 studies; I 2 = 98%)[1]. The mean change in body weight from baseline to week 68 was −14.9% in the semaglutide…

My bad guys, didn’t mean to be negative in my original post. Definitely lacking in compassion. Whether it be obesity or anorexia, these are almost always symptoms of something deeper underlying. I shouldn’t be so flippant. I think I still have to stand by my belief that semaglutide won’t truly solve people’s relationship with food though. That requires going deeper than the temporary solution drugs might provide.

> I think I still have to stand by my belief that semaglutide won’t truly solve people’s relationship with food though.

That sounds fair. I see a lot of over/under weight results as a symptom of a maladaptive coping mechanism for some other issue. Sometimes the issue is simply not having meaning in one's life, but it really can be anything from depression, to anxiety, to lack of friends because of social phobias or low self-esteem.

Looking at this this way helped me find more compassion and less contempt. I hope it helps you too

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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According to this article, it's been (sorta) reproduced once, which is better than most studies. About 40-60% of scientific studies are not reproducible. Given that, I'd want to see more reproductions. Also, I'm very annoyed by our American culture which tries to fix problems with drugs, rather than preventing them from happening in the first place with good diet, exercise, sleep and stress management.

> good diet, exercise, sleep and stress management

The problem is these are individual solutions. We have a societal-wide problem. These solutions are therefore useless. You can't solve societal problems with individual solutions.

For example, I can't say "people shouldn't steal because it's immoral". It's true, and for me or you that might be enough to keep us from stealing. This is an individual solution.

The societal solution is how do you demotivate people from stealing? Now we're not talking about morals. We're talking about economics, poverty, crime prevention, the criminal-industrial complex, etc.

If you're waiting around for the day that American "culture" magically reverses itself and everyone wants to be healthy by their own accord, it will never come.

If you want an example of changing "culture", look at smoking. Hint: it has nothing to do with "being healthier". The changes we made were not about that.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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I agree with your sentiment, but frankly human nature just doesn’t work that way. We don’t have self control. We weren’t evolved for a world of abundance. This is no one’s fault, and it’s everywhere, china is getting fatter than most countries now. Realistically, ozempic is a miracle and it seems to be a solution to numerous issues of our world. It would be nice if it wasn’t so, but apart from the 10% of people who c…

Lol, no. There are countries in which obesity is nonexistent.

Typically, because less food is available in day-to-day life.

If I sold cigs on every street corner in a "skinny" country like Japan, how confident are you that I wouldn't create a smoking culture?

This is not a matter of motivation or discipline. Such thinking is short-sighted.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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I agree with your sentiment, but frankly human nature just doesn’t work that way. We don’t have self control. We weren’t evolved for a world of abundance. This is no one’s fault, and it’s everywhere, china is getting fatter than most countries now. Realistically, ozempic is a miracle and it seems to be a solution to numerous issues of our world. It would be nice if it wasn’t so, but apart from the 10% of people who c…

It makes your poop sit in your tummy and rot

This isn't true

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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I agree with your sentiment, but frankly human nature just doesn’t work that way. We don’t have self control. We weren’t evolved for a world of abundance. This is no one’s fault, and it’s everywhere, china is getting fatter than most countries now. Realistically, ozempic is a miracle and it seems to be a solution to numerous issues of our world. It would be nice if it wasn’t so, but apart from the 10% of people who c…

Lol, no. There are countries in which obesity is nonexistent.

Obesity is on the rise in a huge percentage of developed nations, and not just western ones. Even South Korea has seen a huge spike over the past decade - the amount of obese men /doubled/ between 2009 and 2019. It went up 3x in China between 1993 and 2015, and is on track to be over 20% by the end of the decade. Japan is increasing at a much slower rate, but it's still going up. 25% of people in India are overweight, with that number and morbid obesity numbers also increasing.

Basically every country sees obesity rise as the people gain access to the modern diet.

Re: Ozempic linked to lower Alzheimer's risk in people with Type 2 diabetes

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Why not just lose weight by eating less? I know that sounds like a dumb question. But genuinely, aren’t you just paying money to… not spend the money on food instead?

> Why not just lose weight by eating less? I know that sounds like a dumb question. Because it requires willpower and discipline, this just a pill/injection doing all the heavy work for you. Hence the success in USA. There are countries where this drug is semi unknown.

And it's becoming more and more known because obesity is a growing problem for nearly the entirety of the developed world.

If you're so convinced that obesity is a moral failing, then just put 'no fatties and no fake skinny glp-1 users' in your tinder profile, and all of the rest of us can move on with our days.

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