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Math is still catching up to the genius of Ramanujan

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Re: Math is still catching up to the genius of Ramanujan

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Why aren't we working on drugs to make people smart?

IIRC nicotine is the most effective nootropic by far, the problem being that it's super addictive. But none of them work as well as sleep and exercise.

IIRC nicotine itself isn’t super addictive when used solely in a less addictive form, as in gum or patch.

Re: Math is still catching up to the genius of Ramanujan

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Ramanujan responsible for inspiring generations of mathematicians throughout the world. His life was a beautiful tragedy. One that leaves me in awe and also great inner sadness. If you come from a hardcore traditional br*hmin family, just to cross over the ocean by boat would risk you getting excommunicated. The culture which he came from makes the entire story all the more legendary. Just cutting off your topknot and forgoing the dhoti to wear a western suit. We don’t understand what he went through and what he gave up to give us his mathematics. What he had to sacrifice to practice his art.. to be.

Re: Math is still catching up to the genius of Ramanujan

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That was a fun read. What really stuck out to me was how R failed in a bunch of other subjects except math because he wasn’t interested in them. I know society and norms expect students to learn all these other subjects. But what if those just aren’t interesting to someone? I wonder how many geniuses we skip on because doing the chores of homework and getting through boring classes is busywork and memorization for th…

Well, my solution would be this:

Instead of giving kids grades with a ceiling, each subject would have (unlimited number of) levels of proficiency, and to attain a level, kids would have to pass a test (demonstrate certain skill). The choice of subjects and levels to attain would be up to each kid, but they would have to choose to do something (working at getting next level of something would be mandatory). (Although perhaps they should be encouraged to explore different subjects and attain some minimum of levels.)

Also, I would group kids by subject, and not by age. So kids of slightly different levels would train together, and the higher level kids would be obligated to help kids on lower level to learn, while lower level kids were taught to be respectful of higher level kids.

Re: Math is still catching up to the genius of Ramanujan

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So in grade 5 you maths is A++++ (like college entry level), you're excused from English, Civics and what not, and when by the time of graduation you've fizzled out (which most prodigies do) you're just an unemployable nerd. School education standards are the barest minimum and anyone of IQ > 85 can make them.

Personally I can’t say I learned anything professionally useful in english or civics. An actually decent math class in just one of my years of k-12 would have been much more useful.

When you're a scientist, you'd assume the calculus is the most useful thing you learn in high school, but actually its the 10 page essay on deadline for grant writing.

Re: Math is still catching up to the genius of Ramanujan

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> sxe Weird. First time I've ever seen that (abbreviation?) For straight-egde. Thought you were talking about some supplement at first.

I thought the same and instantly googled, and immediately remembered I had seen it before. It's like a play off HxC

Re: Math is still catching up to the genius of Ramanujan

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Most colleges now inundate students with painful core classes that go on into senior year. It's getting ridiculous.

Specific citation needed. At Big US Engineering School, many people are done with their prerequisites in a year. Unless you're talking about painful core classes like "compiler design" and "networking", which I would say is a different conversation.

Prerequisites are different from core stuff, like say you study computer science but hey take this English class as well for your W credits. I gamed my university on these, taking easy courses that I wouldn’t have bothered with, I think it was one or two quarters of BS (dual acronym meaning) classes.

Re: Math is still catching up to the genius of Ramanujan

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The stories of mathematicians like Srinivasa Ramanujan, who claimed to have derived complex partitions and identities in dreams, have always captivated me. It's as if their minds were tapping into some hidden reservoir of knowledge. I'm curious what drives these intuitive leaps. Was Ramanujan's brain quietly processing patterns during sleep, leveraging its default mode network in ways we're still struggling to unders…

As others say - just study a lot of math. You will not be Ramanujan, but you will be better at math.

That's not to say there isn't something spiritual and mystical in knowledge. I think the fact that he was from a different background gave him a different perspective. But yeah you cannot skip all the math studying.

Re: Math is still catching up to the genius of Ramanujan

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In the Ramanujan story, a true MVP is G.H. Hardy. He read letters from some random unknown guy (a savage "native" no less!) half the world away, and took them seriously. And then organized resources to have that guy travel to England. A true MVP. All the others Ramanujan wrote to ignored him (understandably so). Such a tragedy that he died so young.

If you want to understand how human potential was wasted in old world, Ramanujan belongs to a caste in India that is only caste that is supposed to be educated (Representing probably Ramanujan short life itself is a loss to the world, Imagine how many Ramanujan's were ignored where there is no G.H. Hardy and what about Ramanujans in the other 95%?

Re: Math is still catching up to the genius of Ramanujan

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC nicotine is the most effective nootropic by far, the problem being that it's super addictive. But none of them work as well as sleep and exercise.

IIRC nicotine itself isn’t super addictive when used solely in a less addictive form, as in gum or patch.

Have you ever tried taking a vape away from a teenager?

...or me?

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