For people who want to stick with a Chrome-based browser while still using the full-featured uBlock Origin: Brave will keep supporting uBlock Origin even after Manifest V2's removal from Chromium. https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/
"Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"
151–160 of 490 posts
Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's old news, as noted in my other comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41810420 The change here is actually about the stable channel. Also, the title makes it sound like MV2 code has been removed from the source, but that's not the case.
> That's old news, as noted in my other comment: None of your comments have actually provided evidence for this assertion, and the previous update dated June 3rd 2024 says users will start seeing a warning . So when between June 3 and October 9 did Google start actually disabling MV2 extensions, and where was it publicized prior to their October 9 update?
It's not an assertion. It's simple reading comprehension. How else can you interpret this?
"Over the last few months, we have continued with the Manifest V2 phase-out. Currently the chrome://extensions page displays a warning banner for all users of Manifest V2 extensions. Additionally, we have started disabling Manifest V2 extensions on pre-stable channels. [paragraph break] We will now [emphasis mine] begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable."
> So when between June 3 and October 9 did Google start actually disabling MV2 extensions, and where was it publicized prior to their October 9 update?
I don't know if it was publicized, until now.
After all, when did they publicize that there would be a warning in Chrome stable? But there is a warning in Chrome stable. That started happening some time before this announcement.
Four months is a long gap between announcements.
Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"
#153On Mac OS: https://kagi.com/orion/
Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not convinced that this is a good idea, but I don't think that's the reason; don't all your dlls come from the internet?
My comment was sarcasm. The difference here is are you downloading a random dll from a well known source or from http://free-vpn-fast-internet.dwnloadfree.ru/free-chrome-vpn... ? My mom isn't going to know the difference and will click the big green DOWNLOAD NOW button blindly.
Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That's old news, as noted in my other comment: None of your comments have actually provided evidence for this assertion, and the previous update dated June 3rd 2024 says users will start seeing a warning . So when between June 3 and October 9 did Google start actually disabling MV2 extensions, and where was it publicized prior to their October 9 update?
> None of your comments have actually provided evidence for this assertion It's not an assertion. It's simple reading comprehension. How else can you interpret this? "Over the last few months, we have continued with the Manifest V2 phase-out. Currently the chrome://extensions page displays a warning banner for all users of Manifest V2 extensions. Additionally, we have started disabling Manifest V2 extensions on pre-s…
So you literally don't know if it was news before now, but you're insisting on calling it "old news", apparently based solely on Google using past tense in their announcement.
Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"
#156As to switching to Firefox? I'd love to, but Firefox on iOS refuses to put in an AdBlocker. Yea, you can use Firefox Focus but that one doesn't sync.
I don't understand Mozilla's stance on this.
Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"
#157What does this mean for browsers derived from chrome, like Arc? I heard they plan on continuing to support Manifest v2, but will ublock continue to be maintained for chrome?
Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Anyone jumping up and down about MV3 while using Mac or iOS are hypocrites, since MV3 is essentially doing the same thing Safari did years ago, iOS I'll give you, but macOS can in fact run ex. Firefox. > finally matching the security and the privacy in that regard. "Matching" inferior security+privacy is not a good thing. The only way this is an improvement if you think the blockers are malicious; otherwise a usefu…
> The only way this is an improvement if you think the blockers are malicious Extensions and in turn MV2 blockers can easily be malicious. https://usa.kaspersky.com/blog/dangerous-chrome-extensions-8... Look at how many in Kaspersky’s list are advertised as ad blockers. The majority of users aren’t tech savvy like HN.
By my count 5, 6 if we include "Autoskip for Youtube", out of 34. That might be an argument for dropping extensions, but I don't think it's an argument for breaking ad blockers.
Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Anyone jumping up and down about MV3 while using Mac or iOS are hypocrites, since MV3 is essentially doing the same thing Safari did years ago, iOS I'll give you, but macOS can in fact run ex. Firefox. > finally matching the security and the privacy in that regard. "Matching" inferior security+privacy is not a good thing. The only way this is an improvement if you think the blockers are malicious; otherwise a usefu…
One of the most common API malware extensions use is what MV3 blocks, and adblock extension is one of the common malware vectors: https://helpcenter.getadblock.com/hc/en-us/articles/97384768... https://www.wired.com/story/fake-chrome-extensions-malware/ This has been never ending.
Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of other ad blockers use static lists for years. The fact that they work tells that ad industry does not see the blockers as a problem that needs to be dealt with. It can also be that so far the increased cost of development of ads that are immune to simple static lists is not worth it.
Right. Advertisers didn't bother with all these tactics because normal chrome users could download a plugin without any major hurdles to thwart it. Why drive people that wouldn't otherwise use an ad blocker to do so? That's going away now. Now mostly everyone is vulnerable with the only recourse being pretty technical stuff, not just downloading a very popular plugin. So advertisers will now be free to get more aggre…
> I do get that this sounds like conspiracy theory.
> … was not a coincidence.
Could it be that it was coincidence? Do you have a solution for reducing extension malware without removing onBeforeRequest?