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Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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I wonder: do all the HNers who are excited about their GenAI product or wrapper or startup understand, at a fundamental level, that they are an intrinsic part of this deterioration? Or is this one of those fundamental attribution error things: - MY product is a powerful tool for creators who wish to save time - THEIR product is just a poorly-though-out slop generator Does it occur to people to instead be part of some…

Are you saying AI isn’t useful? My product is painstakingly crafted and uses AI but in my opinion it uses it tastefully and with great utility. Also 95%+ of my development efforts are not on improving the AI even though I use a .ai TLD. I think it’s crazy for a modern company/product _not_ to use AI, and the grifters building clear wrappers for GPT and other insanely low-quality efforts are already pretty much dead.

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#152

I wonder: do all the HNers who are excited about their GenAI product or wrapper or startup understand, at a fundamental level, that they are an intrinsic part of this deterioration? Or is this one of those fundamental attribution error things: - MY product is a powerful tool for creators who wish to save time - THEIR product is just a poorly-though-out slop generator Does it occur to people to instead be part of some…

Was it ever any different with social media, surveillance advertising, SEO, NFTs, etc?

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#153

Almost all of the "product X vs Y" results are AI ramblings now. This growth of the dead Internet is making me want to sign up for Kagi. We're going to need a certification for human generated content at some point.

Kagi's results for "baby peacock" are showing almost the same set (Mostly AI) as Google's.

Kagi's images are an entirely different set for me.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#154
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Even Google is trying to get into the X vs Y game, with pretty funny results if you ask for a nonsensical comparison. https://x.com/samhenrigold/status/1843040235325964549 ...or a sensical comparison where it just completely misses the point. https://i.imgur.com/FotFZ3F.jpeg

Couldn't reproduce - in fact, the second hit is a threads version of the same post - but I get no AI suggestions for this query. Humorous Google queries (or AI queries more generally) are definitely a trope, so I can never really tell if they actually happened or if it's all for karma.

Google also routinely removes AI suggestions for searches that produce embarrassing results (you don't get them for searches about keeping cheese on your pizza anymore, for example), so it's even harder to validate once a result goes viral.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#155

I wonder: do all the HNers who are excited about their GenAI product or wrapper or startup understand, at a fundamental level, that they are an intrinsic part of this deterioration? Or is this one of those fundamental attribution error things: - MY product is a powerful tool for creators who wish to save time - THEIR product is just a poorly-though-out slop generator Does it occur to people to instead be part of some…

Sure but doesn't every technological development have these tradeoffs? You could say what you say about anyone at any time. Where do you draw the line? I guarantee you'll be guilty of the exact same thing. I don't want to generalize, but IMO this sentiment of yours, I hear most loudly from software engineers far removed from ordinary non-technical end users: is making beautiful new LISPs and CNIs and Python package a…

> I hear most loudly from software engineers far removed from ordinary non-technical end users

I am absolutely not far removed from non-technical end users. They are my client base, ultimately. As a freelancer I focus on building real things that make things better for people whose faces and voices I get to know. GenAI will be useless to them, because it is antithetical to what they do.

And that focus is only getting keener; I want nothing to do with the AI-generated web.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#156

I wonder: do all the HNers who are excited about their GenAI product or wrapper or startup understand, at a fundamental level, that they are an intrinsic part of this deterioration? Or is this one of those fundamental attribution error things: - MY product is a powerful tool for creators who wish to save time - THEIR product is just a poorly-though-out slop generator Does it occur to people to instead be part of some…

Did they care over the past 10 years where they decimated social lives, city night life, and humanity? https://sherwood.news/world/still-searching-for-that-connect...

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#157

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It really is a werid feeling remembering the internet of my youth and even my 20s and knowing that it will never exist again.

I'm a little sad for anyone who didn't get to experience the Internet of the twentieth century. It was a unique point in time. I'm ready to pay for a walled garden where the incentives are aligned towards me, instead of against me. I know that puts me in a minority, but I'm tired of the advertising 'net.

the problem with that is not the payment, it's that you will only be sharing it with people similarly willing to pay for a walled garden. I'm guessing most of what we're nostalgic for was created by people who wouldn't be up for that

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#158

It's not even the right terminology. I think you should probably use "peafowl". The search "peafowl chicks" seems to return all real images.

I think this is kind of key to the issue, the good content is there if you know how to find it. But if you don't know the right terminology then you are going to search for baby peacock and get bad results.

Kind of like how the Internet worked pre-Google.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

#159

I wonder: do all the HNers who are excited about their GenAI product or wrapper or startup understand, at a fundamental level, that they are an intrinsic part of this deterioration? Or is this one of those fundamental attribution error things: - MY product is a powerful tool for creators who wish to save time - THEIR product is just a poorly-though-out slop generator Does it occur to people to instead be part of some…

They want money, they’re riding the hype wave, not advancing anything and I’m sure most or all know it.

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Question is how long till you can’t tell the difference

It's almost impossible now. NotebookLM really impressed me. I knew voice synthesis has gotten better than Stephen Hawking's "voice" but I really wasn't expecting having two realistic voices with emotions that even banter with each other. There is a bit of banality to them - they like to call something a "a game changer" practically every "podcast" and the insights into the material is pretty shallow, but they are pro…

It's impressive at first until you realise they're practically ad libbing a script. They're filled with all the same annoying American clichés ("you know me, I like x", your aforementioned "a game changer", plenty of "wow"). It would be impossible to listen to two in a row without realising how repetitive it is.
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