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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Lol, if it was Apple announcing a similar prototype HN would be crazy and this thread would have 3000 comments already. But since it's meta, it's mostly negative.

> But since it's meta, it's mostly negative.

Same with other companies actively damaging the world around us. Tobacco, Weapons, etc.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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I've been trying some of the smart glasses on the market and the optics don't agree with me, almost instantly they cause me severe eye strain and eventually headaches. Which is strange because I'm alright with VR for 45-60 minutes. I really want to use these devices for portable productivity but they are so far from that in their current state. I hope Meta can solve these issues.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#153

Glasses that offer you an AR experience / HUD? Pretty cool Glasses that let you record people without their awareness / consent? Downright creepy I think the best play here would be to release them without any camera functionality at all, or the connotations will be that weird, sweaty guy that no one wants to sit next to on the subway (see: Google Glass).

There's dozens of different styles of camera glasses available on Amazon today for a fraction of the price, with completely concealed cameras. I think that train left the station years ago.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Orion is a see through device with screen. Something like Hololens.

Suppose they're referring to the Ray-Bans Wayfarers, no display, just front facing camera and audio I thought it was very gimmicky, I tried taking lots of family photos but none of them were any good, between the vertical format and, you know, not being able to frame the shot. Also I never adapted to having an LLM in my ear (big network induced lag times didn't help), so ymmv All I want are glasses that can tell me w…

Plus, “that person’s name is ‘jazzyjackson’” when you’re looking at them

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#155

This is cool from a technical standpoint, but ultimately just feels like another gimmick. This feels like it's doing stuff that I could do faster or better (and definitely, more safely) on a computer or phone. I don't personally see the appeal of hands-free as a paradigm in most cases. Do we really want people talking on and looking at Zoom as they walk around the office? Or as they drive? Or as they are out shopping…

I definitely see the appeal.

A vastly larger screen where you don't have to crane your neck down to read the news? That sounds amazing for my daily commute, and so much healthier for my neck and shoulders.

And visible directions while cycling would be amazing, when it's unsafe to glance at your phone. (Audio directions aren't nearly as good, and wearing headphones/earbuds while cycling is illegal in a lot of places as well.) A heads-up display in your car should be safer too than looking down at the screen.

And if people are having video calls while walking, that doesn't seem any goofier or creepier from audio calls with earbuds, where it already looks like somebody talking to nobody.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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So product managers in these companies really think these products will make money and would become sustainable produc lone? Or it's just muscle flex and show off?

Zuck has invested billions in this idea over the course of a decade. I think it's way beyond some "product managers".

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#158

This is cool from a technical standpoint, but ultimately just feels like another gimmick. This feels like it's doing stuff that I could do faster or better (and definitely, more safely) on a computer or phone. I don't personally see the appeal of hands-free as a paradigm in most cases. Do we really want people talking on and looking at Zoom as they walk around the office? Or as they drive? Or as they are out shopping…

But what if while you are talking to someone it automatically displays a subway surfer video next to their face /s

Putting stuff in front of your phase is a more natural interface than having to hold a rectangle you look into. But the friction of phone screens might be quite healthy to society.

On the other hand in blue collar work this is invaluable. Basically the same market every other AR headset is going after: overlaying plans or live sensor data over your viewpoint, being able to share a common viewpoint when troubleshooting with people remotely, sending out low-skilled people on support calls with experts directing them remotely, etc

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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When they say "holographic display", do they mean "wave interference patterns" (true hologram) or just "Pepper's ghost" type stuff?

It's hard to say for sure because this write-up is much more marketing than technical, but they probably mean it uses holographic optical elements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_optical_element

These are more or less "true" holographic elements, because they rely on wave optics and interference. But the pattern is fixed at manufacturing time, not varying with the image that's being displayed. And the image being displayed to each eye is still 2D, not 3D.

Basically, an HOE can act like a system of lenses and mirrors for collimating the image from each eye's display and making it appear at a comfortable viewing distance -- but is much smaller and lighter.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

#160

This is cool from a technical standpoint, but ultimately just feels like another gimmick. This feels like it's doing stuff that I could do faster or better (and definitely, more safely) on a computer or phone. I don't personally see the appeal of hands-free as a paradigm in most cases. Do we really want people talking on and looking at Zoom as they walk around the office? Or as they drive? Or as they are out shopping…

> Can you imagine how goofy you'd look sitting at a coffee shop and just sort of staring into the middle distance and talking, as you take a Zoom call?

While I agree with you, you could also say the same thing about mashing a black square with your thumbs at a coffee shop or walking around a grocery store with little piece of plastic in your ear and talking to someone.

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