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Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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It provides friction for further misbehaving. Imagine you blocked someone who has serious issues with people who #foobar. It's better for you if they can't easily find you and repost your content to their community who also hate #foobar. It's not perfect, but the friction helps prevent drive-by bad behaviour.

It's the opposite. People with serious issues (i.e. stalkers, trolls etc.) will continue following on a second account or proxy. Meanwhile regular accounts with legitimate criticisms (for example pointing out misinformation, calling out bias, and so on) get blocked by bad actors and those will not find them anymore and repost because they don't invest time in it. Blocking mainly prevents regular normal users from see…

Not to mention people attempting to slander others behind a block (so the person being slandered has no idea until the damage is already done), or temporarily unblocking to say something to someone, and then blocking again.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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The simplest answer is that Elon is blocked by a lot of people, as are many people whose voices he wants heard, and believes that it goes against his flavor of "free speech". He's been unblocking himself over the years, and this feels like the next logical step for him. I think its simple... a lot of people have blocked Elon, so Elon thinks blocking is bad.

That simple answer is wrong, because the changes don't make it so that people who blocked Elon see Elon's posts now.

Have you not paid attention to twitter since he bought it?

The guy has been forcing his accounts and shit takes onto everyone's timelines.

Accounts have mysteriously started following his account when they never manually did it.

Muting his account hasn't properly worked since he bought twitter.

It's literally what he's been doing it since day 1 of purchase.

Sorry if that sounds a bit rude, but I'm just baffled by people literally denying reality when it smacks them in the face repeatedly.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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I'd like to be able to unblock people. An unblock all would be nice to get back to baseline. A while back I blocked everyone that followed a specific user that kept appearing in my feed (this was prior to the musk acquisition where you can view accounts you follow explicitly which is nice). This was around 50k people (it did make a noticeable difference). The unblock is broken though - I was able to unblock maybe 1k,…

You blocked 50k people? Don't you have to block people one by one? How did you even do this?

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Musk is right on this one. It wasn’t serving any real purpose to let me selectively block other people from _seeing_ my posts (but _interacting_ does make sense). If I genuinely don’t want someone to see my posts, I just can’t put it on Twitter/X unless I have a private profile (is that still a thing?). Otherwise, it’s a public platform, in that anyone can register with little more than an email address and see my po…

Twitter itself recognized there are levels of public early on. The original site was every post in one timeline. The things I say to a room or to people at a table are not meant for everyone at the event. The phrase context collapse came about and persists for a reason. A blocked person has been kicked out of the public local to the poster and their followers. It doesn't make sense for them to be able to continue to…

>The things I say to a room or to people at a table are not meant for everyone at the event.

Not what Twitter was or is? You have misunderstood the site like a Facebook timeline boomer poster. "uuoooh people can see this!!!" Yes. Twitter is not your own IRC server. But seeing as it started with MacBook Starbucks hipsters, I am not surprised they just made something up in their minds and rolled with it.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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post #153

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That simple answer is wrong, because the changes don't make it so that people who blocked Elon see Elon's posts now.

Have you not paid attention to twitter since he bought it? The guy has been forcing his accounts and shit takes onto everyone's timelines. Accounts have mysteriously started following his account when they never manually did it. Muting his account hasn't properly worked since he bought twitter. It's literally what he's been doing it since day 1 of purchase. Sorry if that sounds a bit rude, but I'm just baffled by peo…

I'm sorry you're frustrated, but it has nothing to do with this change, which works in the opposite direction.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Good. Blocking is unidirectional, you prevent yourself from seeing the other person's posts. It should not be bidirectional, as this informs the other person that you have blocked them. Reddit implements blocking as bidirectional, and even tells you (using coded language such as "deleted" and "unavailable") that there is a post in the thread from a person who has blocked you, and includes a permalink to that post. Th…

> Blocking is unidirectional, you prevent yourself from seeing the other person's posts. It should not be bidirectional, as this informs the other person that you have blocked them.

I agree, this is how Discord does it INSIDE SERVERS. Not sure why you are downvoted but like on Reddit and HN people just downvote what they do not like.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

#158

This is technically the better option as it doesn’t indicate via sidechannel that someone has blocked you.

An alternative is to present a never ending loading screen to users who got blocked, making "access denied because someone blocked you" indistinguishable from regular infrastructure failures.

Twitter may be doing something like that already, where some old links will result in "Hmm...this page doesn't exist. Try searching for something else.", even though the same link is visible via a Nitter proxy.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Last time I remember, YouTube comments were full of spam bots talking about vile things to get attention

And would you care to document for posterity when was that last time? I think the change in YouTube comments happened some 7-8 years ago, so 2017 or so.

I see "this video is awful, check out my channel" or "I did X awful thing, check my channel!" style spam comments on YouTube daily.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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It's the opposite. People with serious issues (i.e. stalkers, trolls etc.) will continue following on a second account or proxy. Meanwhile regular accounts with legitimate criticisms (for example pointing out misinformation, calling out bias, and so on) get blocked by bad actors and those will not find them anymore and repost because they don't invest time in it. Blocking mainly prevents regular normal users from see…

Those are all issues as well, but brigading is absolutely a thing.

Blocking doesn't really fix the brigading problem, regardless of whether people need to log out or not.

Most X users will just post a screenshot of the tweet, breaking accessibility in the process and disassociating the original author from the thread against their will.

This isn't always a good thing, as it leads to people being surprised by crowds of strangers suddenly screaming at them and not being able to see the source of their anger.

Some people do this as a "preventative measure", so that their post still makes sense when the original tweet is deleted.

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