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Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by ivan_gammel »

mmastrac wrote: post #116

I guess they are taking a victory lap around yesterday's major embarrassment. I never thought that you could dismantle a terrorist organization so surgically by just booby-trapping comms devices. This will certainly be made into a blockbuster movie in ten years. I'll re-iterate my previous comment on this matter: this is an impressive supply-chain hack with absolutely oversized results, and you gotta hand it to them…

It doesn’t look very surgical to me given the civilian casualties and general disregard of what can happen to innocent people. If anything this looks more like a state-sponsored terrorist attack than covert ops with collateral damage.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by gruez »

tptacek wrote: post #140
Zironic wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I can't say I'm a big fan of this massive scale booby trapping devices all over civilian society and I suspect most nation stats are not very happy about this either. The EU is probably not going to be happy at all about Israel using an EU flagged company to do it either. This is going to create a lot of distrust in the international supply chain.

These aren't civilian devices.

The claim isn't that they're "civilian devices", it's that they're "devices all over civilian society". That's relevant because bobby trapping them is liable to cause casualties.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by bri3k »

tptacek wrote: post #127
mmastrac wrote: post #116

I guess they are taking a victory lap around yesterday's major embarrassment. I never thought that you could dismantle a terrorist organization so surgically by just booby-trapping comms devices. This will certainly be made into a blockbuster movie in ten years. I'll re-iterate my previous comment on this matter: this is an impressive supply-chain hack with absolutely oversized results, and you gotta hand it to them…

It's not a victory lap; this operation by itself is one of the largest and most intricate operations Israeli intelligence has ever executed, and would have been planned months in advance. Repeating from elsewhere on the thread: the reporting is that this is happening now because Hezbollah was on the verge of discovering the operation. I think it's likely both sets of devices came from the same manufacturer or distrib…

Agree. If one device was booby-trapped the first thing I would be doing is disassembling all my others devices for the same.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by CamperBob2 »

janmo wrote: post #107

If the mossad was able to plant explosives without being caught, I wouldn't be surprised if they also planted bugs (indiscriminately) in many electronic devices delivered to Lebanon such as TVs, computers, phones etc... Similar to the spy chips implants within the Supermicro server motherboards.

The Supermicro story was never proven to be anything but bullshit, though. The more you looked into it, the less it added up.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by elfbargpt »

lxchase wrote: post #80

Anyone know how these devices may have been triggered that would be different from pagers? I imagine these radios would have to be modified to listen to multiple channels in case a radio was on a different channel than planned.

For both attacks, I've been seeing stories of a plane, the "EC-130H Compass Call" flying in the area. It's supposedly an electronic intelligence aircraft that hasn't been seen in the sky for about a year. I don't know much more than that though

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by carterparks »

fortran77 wrote: post #113

I've seen photos posted on X and Telegram (of course I can't verify) of what look like Baofeng and Icom UHF hand-helds that have detonated. Not sure how they can get them to all blow up in unison--these aren't devices that can receive a digital message--as they apparently did at a funeral today.

They can detect analog tones for functions like CTCSS.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by mistermann »

flyinglizard wrote: post #54
leoqa wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Israel is in their 9/11 moment and is not backing down due to international hand wringing. Ultimately it’s a test of the international institutions and US government support.

What you're saying is true. Israeli citizens have had enough and demand a military solution. The fighting doctrine of Israel's adversaries is attacking and then running for the cover of the international community, but post October 7th that doesn't really work anymore with Israel.

> Israeli citizens have had enough and demand a military solution.

Enthusiasts of Rhetoric or Logic may notice how interesting this sentence is, in that it is both true and false simultaneously.

They may also notice that is also true of a rather large percentage of discussion/cognition regarding these matters.

Gosh, how do people manage to understand what's going on if language is used this way???

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by petra »

lxchase wrote: post #80

Anyone know how these devices may have been triggered that would be different from pagers? I imagine these radios would have to be modified to listen to multiple channels in case a radio was on a different channel than planned.

It's possible to send the trigger message on every channel.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by geysersam »

tptacek wrote: post #112
colechristensen wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

X-Ray image compared to known X-Ray of the exact same model Bomb sniffing dog or chemical test of surfaces

Allegedly hidden well enough that a casual X-ray of the pager wouldn't have revealed it.

Interesting that it wasn't discovered by any bomb sniffing dog in Lebanon. They had thousands of devices. There must be at least a few bomb dogs in Lebanon right?
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