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Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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One aspect here that is not commented on but has long-term security implications: Assuming these were indeed Hezbollah devices, its likely every single Hezbollah operative now has an identifying wound, possibly a missing limb or wound at the hip level. The wound may be in fact, unmistakable. What happens later with the lebanese armed forces and with IDF, when they see the ops in the open, its anyone's guess

I might be misinterpreting, but news coverage seems to say that Hezbollah fighters as well as medical personnel were injured. That might mean that the attack was aimed at pagers rather than Hezbollah pagers.

Such lack of precision would be what you'd expect in any kind of operation targeting so many devices.

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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It must be a combination of hardware (put a bomb in it) and software (trigger an explosion when a particular command is received) hack. Triggering an explosion of all devices is needed because if people started hearing about exploding pagers, they'd place their own far away from anything precious to them. Geez, I thought this kind of hack is the stuff of (bad) action movies. I wonder if there's a pager that was power…

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It may be a combination of making the battery overheat which would trigger the planted explosives from a supply chain attack. Of course, I am no hardware engineer/bomb expert to know if that is possible.

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Was going to ask how common pagers were, but suppose still used by emergency services etc and especially in warzones of questionable cell network reliability

Hezbollah reportedly bans its members from carrying cell phones and has them carry pagers instead:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/pagers-drones-how-...

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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It must be a combination of hardware (put a bomb in it) and software (trigger an explosion when a particular command is received) hack. Triggering an explosion of all devices is needed because if people started hearing about exploding pagers, they'd place their own far away from anything precious to them. Geez, I thought this kind of hack is the stuff of (bad) action movies. I wonder if there's a pager that was power…

I doubt it has anything to do with the battery, pagers typically use the far more stable (and less energy dense) NiMH composition over a typical lithium one.

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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This hack is the best argument against network-connected electric vehicles that there is. Imagine the same, but with tens of thousands of Teslas.

I don't think it would be quite the same as in explosive ordinance put into a device but it is very similar in that a mass hack could use the navigation system to target pedestrians and calculate the speed required to plow through them without losing control to maximize victim count. All that would be required in another remote hack as has been demonstrated on live highways in the past [1] combined with some form of…

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Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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This being a hack is improbable in my opinion. If you see the pictures of the aftermath, the damage is too big to be the result of a lithium battery explosion. Moreover the devices exploded at the same time in different locations (won’t happen if they made the battery overheat till explosion) HA probably bought a bad batch with implanted explosives and they set it off now.

Pretty much, yeah. The hack was used only to activate it remotely, and in pager systems, it should not be a hard task. But I highly doubt it was only due to battery overheating. I have seen scooter batteries exploding before, and they don’t burst as quickly as this one.
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