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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by swatcoder »

souvlakee wrote: post #17

The more I watch, the sadder I get. It seems they've gone in the wrong direction. They have nothing to offer regular phone users, so they're targeting "creative professionals" with fancy features.

The archetype of a smartphone is essentially mature at this point and has been for a while.

Innovations are either going to be aimed at improving niche uses, gradual enhancements on stats like power/cpu/display/photo-quality, or accommodating fashion trends like overall size or whether it's foldable.

The most original opportunity lately is generative AI integration and that's exactly what they put into focus for 2024.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by throwaway918299 »

souvlakee wrote: post #17

The more I watch, the sadder I get. It seems they've gone in the wrong direction. They have nothing to offer regular phone users, so they're targeting "creative professionals" with fancy features.

As one of those users I'm still rocking my iPhone 11 and am perfectly content sticking with it The phone works. Telegram and Whatsapp works. Slack works. Safari still runs great on the web on the very few websites I use or browse. The longer I can use this without feeling "forced" to upgrade, the happier I'll be.

What apple offers me is peace of mind and stability. That's all I want from a phone.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by paperplatter »

paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

I'm just glad it makes the slightly less new ones a bit cheaper. My iPhone 6S needs to either get a new battery or get replaced.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by antisthenes »

rty32 wrote: post #105

> “Powered by the faster, more efficient A18 Pro chip and built for Apple Intelligence, iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are the most advanced iPhone models we’ve ever made,” said Greg Joswiak, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing. Thanks Greg, that's very helpful information.

I've always wondered what a VP of marketing does at a company that already has a de-facto monopoly on their biggest market as well as in the luxury segment worldwide.

Come out once a year and say "we made this thing bigger and better"?

Must be nice to get paid $25mil/year for that.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by bengale »

thih9 wrote: post #142
swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

> "all done on device" and on cloud The real indicator for me is: how many of these features are not available in the EU due to privacy concerns. Do we know that?

It’s all Apple Intelligence and that’s not coming to the EU currently.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by paperplatter »

thiht wrote: post #94
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

> Better battery life That’s the only thing from your list that people actually care about and they did improve battery life, there was a whole segment about it. The rest? No one cares. Do you even use an iPhone? You sound like me before I got an iPhone: - I thought the notch would be annoying, I don’t even notice it anymore, it’s never been an issue in actual use - I was convinced TouchID was better than FaceID but…

The notch is ok, but FaceID is a downgrade, and so is not having a home button or a headphone jack.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by a13n »

thih9 wrote: post #142
swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

> "all done on device" and on cloud The real indicator for me is: how many of these features are not available in the EU due to privacy concerns. Do we know that?

lots of the US has similar legislation to GDPR at this point, e.g CCPA

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by panarky »

swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

"Insanely good ideas"?

With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming.

Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet.

I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in demand for iPhone.

It's hard to see how any of this is enough to trigger a new upgrade cycle instead of just waiting until battery life goes to shit or the screen cracks so you have to upgrade.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by boringg »

swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

The part I am most interested in is how much of it is on device and how much of your data is trained only on your own model vs hovered up into a larger model.

On device, my own model. Great.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by eptcyka »

thih9 wrote: post #142
swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

> "all done on device" and on cloud The real indicator for me is: how many of these features are not available in the EU due to privacy concerns. Do we know that?

Privacy concerns? They're just trying to bully the EU. There's no legal or technical reason iOS 18's remote access features wouldn't work in EU, but alas, they do not.
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