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Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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I like LocalSend and Landrop. The latter performed better when I sent large files. However, neither of them does it automatically; you have to manually do it every time, which is okay since they don’t claim to be sync software.

Maybe syncthing fits your use case better? https://syncthing.net/

Thanks, I do use syncthing and it’s great!

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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It's clearly a VPS, not bare metal.

I wonder what it would take for AWS to lower their outbound BW pricing to something that's not insane. I'm beginning to think that the only feasible solution is changing the law.

>I'm beginning to think that the only feasible solution is changing the law.

Do you also think we should legislate the price of BMWs? You're not forced to buy AWS, there's plenty of alternatives, and the prices that AWS charges is well known. I'm not sure why the government should be involved other than a vague sense of "I want cheap stuff".

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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post #143

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It's clearly a VPS, not bare metal.

I wonder what it would take for AWS to lower their outbound BW pricing to something that's not insane. I'm beginning to think that the only feasible solution is changing the law.

Please don't suggest more laws like this. If you don't like AWS pricing, use something else. That's the only real way to develop alternatives.

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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It's clearly a VPS, not bare metal.

I wonder what it would take for AWS to lower their outbound BW pricing to something that's not insane. I'm beginning to think that the only feasible solution is changing the law.

I'm suffering from fatigue from all the political commercials in which every single Democrat apparently single-handedly reduced the price of insulin. As if government-mandated pricing were a good thing.

If something is overpriced, somebody should jump in and take advantage of a business opportunity. If nobody is jumping in, perhaps the item is not overpriced. Or perhaps there is some systemic issue preventing willing competitors from jumping in. Imagine if somebody tackled the real issue and it unclogged the plumbing for producers of all sorts of medicine beside insulin at the same time.

If a government mandates the sale of an item below the cost of production, they drive out all producers and that product disappears from the market. That is, unless they create some government subsidy or other graft to compensate the government-appointed winners. Any way you slice it, it is a recipe for disaster.

If parties are allowed to compete fairly with each other, somebody will offer a cheaper price. This is already the case with AWS. Consumers may decide that the cheaper product is somehow inferior, but that is not a problem that lawmakers should interfere in.

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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I don't recall where I saw it (either the Python or Rust implementation, most likely), but there was talk about trying to turn this into a browser plugin. I would love to be able to use my browser to send files to someone else (via their browser, if they so choose).

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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I have a friend who is not tech savvy at all. And I need him to send me a huge file. Is there any GUI frontend for this?

Wormhole William provides an APK: https://github.com/psanford/wormhole-william-mobile/releases...

On Windows and Linux, there’s RiftShare which has a gui: https://riftshare.app/

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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A similar project with some nice features that I use is croc: https://github.com/schollz/croc

I love croc

Ditto. Been using it for years to transfer very large files to friends when throwing them up on my webserver will be too slow.

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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I wonder what it would take for AWS to lower their outbound BW pricing to something that's not insane. I'm beginning to think that the only feasible solution is changing the law.

Please don't suggest more laws like this. If you don't like AWS pricing, use something else. That's the only real way to develop alternatives.

You disliked my idle thought so much that you needed to reply twice? :)

The various factors causing strong lock-in effects, their dominance, and the insanely high pricing of moving data out of AWS - I wouldn't be surprised if they got their antitrust moment within a few years.

Re: Magic Wormhole: get things from one computer to another, safely

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> For some more exotic testing, I was able to run my own magic wormhole relay[1], which let me tweak some things for faster/more reliable huge file copies. The lack of improvement in these tools is pretty devastating. There was a flurry of activity around PAKEs like 6 years ago now, but we're still missing: * reliable hole punching so you don't need a slow relay server * multiple simultaneous TCP streams (or a carefu…

20MB/sec is 160Mbps, so wormhole wasn't that far off the 1Gbps. Sure not maxing out but within a factor of 6.

A factor of six is a very long way off, pretty much universally.
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