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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by stephen_g »

zerkten wrote: post #142
timmg wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As an Aussie observer, I'm seeing more US influence in our region. Not an expert, but my guess is that there is (probably valid) concern about China. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" and all that.

China is a concern for Australia whether the US is in the picture or not. Australia's interests are highly aligned with those of the US. The increased engagement from the US is being welcomed by most Australians, but the issue is really around the implementation. AUKUS is one of these huge deals with the results coming many years after huge investments creating great uncertainty. That makes it easy to attack politica…

The political class, yes, welcome the engagement. But not most Australians!

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by DSingularity »

macintux wrote: post #132
Tade0 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tweet about opposing war in ukraine arguing that NATO is outdated and not in the interest of Ukrainians? Oh pay no attention to him -- he is on the communist payroll. Hailing from a country that joined NATO in the 90s I wouldn't brand a person arguing this as being on communist payroll - just ignorant beyond measure. Russia has been a consistently bad neighbour for decades now and I for one am happy that in my coun…

Why do people who oppose the war in Ukraine feel it's Ukraine's responsibility to roll over and die, instead of Russia's responsibility to turn around and go home?

Is that truly what people who oppose the war believe? Or is that an easy strawman for you to dismiss the anti-war crowd in the eyes of those who dont know the history of this conflict?

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by _djo_ »

Taniwha wrote: post #23
ionwake wrote: post #18

Anyone know why this is prioritised? Wasn't this copyright stuff from like 2 decades ago? Just genuinely curious.

He fought it all the way and ran out of options, we have a more right leaning government now who want to suck up to the US

What did the government have to do with this? Sounds like he ran out of appeals through the court system, which is independent of the government of the day.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by Xen9 »

vessenes wrote: post #103

A fair amount of “this is fine, governments enforce IP laws and that’s a public good” vibes in here, which is all a very reasonable perspective. I’d argue Kim was too successful and too unlikeable at the end of the day, and that was probably his downfall. Toward the end, MEGA had transitioned to actually partnering with hip hop artists for distribution. The US has a long history of IP rights holders criminalizing new…

As for the reason, Mr. Dotcom has claimed to have been a supporter lf WikiLeaks and this was probably not of signifigance, but I would overall bet 10% that his less public involvement with WikiLeaks & WikiLeaks-type activity was part of the analysis that led to him getting targeted.

May be worth to compare the usual tactics of IP owning companies to what happened to Kim. I have a feeling that it could be shown that the kind of treatment he got was not very probable for a normal piracy case, even after accounting for his eccentric behabiour.

ALSO politically he was a failure but not so much that it was not worth paying attention to him as challenger of establishment. Even those normally ignorant of related topics but active in politics may have seen him as an agent eating their votes.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by preisschild »

snapcaster wrote: post #4
popcalc wrote: post #2

One-way flight to Russia? His Twitter feed for the last decade does give merit to the idea that he's been on the payroll.

What other options does he have? I really wish people wouldn't cheer when smallfolk like us get crushed by the state. Not saying he's perfect, but what him and others have to suffer seems vastly out of proportion to what they did

"the state" is made up by normal people. And in this case the state is just protecting normal people from criminals like Dotcom.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by [deleted] »

Tade0 wrote: post #104
DSingularity wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, the classic. Everybody who opposes american foreign policy is labeled. Tweet about opposing the genocide in gaza? Oh dont listen to him -- he is pro khamas. Tweet about opposing war in ukraine arguing that NATO is outdated and not in the interest of Ukrainians? Oh pay no attention to him -- he is on the communist payroll. I understand when leaders in politics or industry make these character-assasination atta…

> Tweet about opposing war in ukraine arguing that NATO is outdated and not in the interest of Ukrainians? Oh pay no attention to him -- he is on the communist payroll. Hailing from a country that joined NATO in the 90s I wouldn't brand a person arguing this as being on communist payroll - just ignorant beyond measure. Russia has been a consistently bad neighbour for decades now and I for one am happy that in my coun…

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by SXX »

cma wrote: post #135
donatj wrote: post #129

What exactly has Mega done that Dropbox hasn't? In my eyes they're basically the same product, the only difference being Mega's edgier tone.

Wasn't the allegation that Mega uploaded copywritten content to themselves to kick things off with something people wanted?

You confusing it with MegaUpload that was shutdown 12 years ago.

When MEGA launched Kim was well known enough where his new service got tracktion on it's own.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by vaylian »

GrantMoyer wrote: post #119
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #38

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I wish people wouldn't cheer when criminals evade accountability.

Some criminals deserved to be cheered on, such as Alexandra Elbakyan.

Because the real criminals are the publishers who keep publicly funded science behind a paywall. None of the people who actually conduct the science see any of the money. In fact, they typically have to pay a lot of money to get their findings published.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by fckflorida »

orra wrote: post #60
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish people wouldn't cheer when criminals evade accountability.

The fair thing to do would be to bring proceedings against him the New Zealand. Extraditing him to the U.S. isn't accountability: it's a flex.

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