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Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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Post by variadix »

woopsn wrote: post #81

> Getting answers on the web can take a lot of effort, often requiring multiple attempts to get relevant results. Don't get me wrong, search has become extremely problematic, ... but how much effort does it take really? Compared to writing a letter, reading a map, walking half a mile etc? The google results for "music festivals in boone north carolina august" are completely adequate. If not then you search again, sur…

Depending on how SEO’d the thing you’re looking for is it can range from easy (looking up docs, specs, etc.) to impossible (product recommendations) to find quality information (without knowing what sources are reliable beforehand). I’m not sure that LLMs will fix the problem, seems like curation is the issue and none of the major players are interested in that.

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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Post by asadotzler »

blagie wrote: post #79
sonium wrote: post #42

The fact that OpenAI is releasing a fancy UI instead of an improved model says something. I'm afraid GPT-5 won't be there any time soon.

You realize GPT-4o was released in May? And the new Facebook models within the past week? New models are coming fast too.

New models, not refinements on old models. You know what the OP was saying. Why the pedantry?

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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Post by throw310822 »

skydhash wrote: post #14

Search engines for me is keyword based. I want to type "pizza near " or " " and get sensible result. Anytime a search engines tries to interpret my query with something far semantically and ignoring my own keywords, it's a worse experience.

Depends. I'm sure that Google trained us to rephrase at least some of our questions as keywords and to not ask some complex questions at all- or at least to expect them to fail. Plus, in general we expect Google to mostly find the information that is already there, while there is a world of information that has not been made explicit by anyone. For example, "how many pizzerias are in this town" and "which one has the highest ratings by Italian customers" are two questions that I would never dream to ask Google. Yet they're possible and not too absurd to ask to an omniscient intelligence.

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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Post by kridsdale3 »

MattDaEskimo wrote: post #11

I really dislike this as OpenAI has spent the past months signing sweetheart deals with any publisher willing to sell their content for training data. It ties everything to their platform and returns a regurgitation of prioritized content without indicating any sort of sponsorship. SEO will be replaced by cold hard cash, favors, and backroom deals

I honestly think that will be an improvement. SEO is enshittification, it degrades the quality of the product. I would rather pay a couple bucks for something good and vetted.

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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Post by anakaine »

lossolo wrote: post #148
saurik wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So... more vaporware? :( Whatever happened to that new voice interface they "announced" back in May? I wish companies would stick to "releasing" things rather than "announcing" them...

> Whatever happened to that new voice interface they "announced" back in May? Yeah, and it was suddenly made just the day before Google announced their models... and do you remember Sora? That was in February.

The voice interface is present in the mobile apps.

They know how to release to get press coverage.

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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Post by EForEndeavour »

anakaine wrote: post #156
lossolo wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Whatever happened to that new voice interface they "announced" back in May? Yeah, and it was suddenly made just the day before Google announced their models... and do you remember Sora? That was in February.

The voice interface is present in the mobile apps. They know how to release to get press coverage.

Not the new voice interface, no: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1d80q59/openai_jus...

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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Post by jigneshdarji91 »

machiaweliczny wrote: post #72
jigneshdarji91 wrote: post #22

I've been using Perplexity for the past 3 months on a regular basis and it has replaced DDG for most use cases. It's really nice to have answers directly. Product comparison/updates/features: > What's the difference in speedo latex cap vs elastomeric? > What's new in iOS 18 Beta 4? Documentation (esp for non-mainstream tools): > How do i find the sioyek db files? How do I move it to my local iCloud folder instead? I'…

The elephant in the room is monetization for people writing this content that perplexity (and then other search engines) will show.

And I believe for this reason necessarily SearchGPT might come out on top, at least for higher quality content from partnerships.

Re: OpenAI Announces SearchGPT

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Post by jigneshdarji91 »

drexlspivey wrote: post #111
freefaler wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perplexity is great, but they might have their rug pulled underneath them. They use google and other search providers to run the query over the results and may be they still can find a good provider. However it's either Google or Bing and they both have their own competing products. However, openAI might not execute this better and then Perplexity might have a chance... (I hope so).

> They use google and other search providers to run the query over the results and may be they still can find a good provider. No they don’t? AFAIK they have their own crawler and semantic search index.

Yes [1]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40690898

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