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Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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Post by arresin »

Kiro wrote: post #144
lambdas wrote: post #142

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I couldn’t disagree more. I went to the doctors at 20 for suspect ADHD, I loved Maths more than anything but my degree was going terribly. I couldn’t focus on the correct things to get the work done, I had no sense of time or organisation, everything was an eternity away until it was due now. Time went on and it got worse and worse. Even non-academic, fun became a chore. Making music, playing games, going out; thinki…

I think everyone should be prescribed Elvanse. I don't have ADHD but Elvanse feels like taking NZT. I become a superhuman.

If you actually have a normal functioning brain (imo) the detriments out weigh the benefits: you will do more but the quality will be lessened and you’ll have fewer insights.

(Also this is apart from the ethics of abusing a medicine that is tenuously situated in the public mind but is literally life saving for a small population of people (untreated ADHD increases risk of early death and reduces lifespan more than smoking or diabetes)).

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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Post by arresin »

Aurornis wrote: post #39
ben_sisko wrote: post #29

Stimulant medication for ADHD has the highest effect size in all of psychiatry. ADHD is highly treatable, when people are properly treated. This just feels like something that somebody made for the parents who are pathologically drug averse at the expense of their children. Of course, the parents don’t realize that their kids don’t get that development time back, so the longer they wait, the harder things can get for…

Nonstimulant medication is also very effective, but with the caveat that it takes longer to kick in. The second caveat is that it’s devoid of any recreational value during the startup period, which has an outsized effect on people’s perception of the medication “working”. Stimulant medication tends to be favorably accepted at first (for entirely unsurprising reasons, even though some people don’t experience quite the…

This is the problem with the internet. The post I’m replying to is a complete lie. Non-stimulant medication is basically useless.

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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Post by TeMPOraL »

numpad0 wrote: post #137
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Most people can't focus on books. People with or discussing ADHD tend to miss that.

Yes. But that's the baseline. People with ADHD can't focus even more, on books and most of anything else. They're worse at the whole class of things relative to most people, which is what turns it into a diagnostic category.

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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Post by DANmode »

cbsmith wrote: post #93
Micanthus wrote: post #84

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Likely guanfacine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanfacine Looks really promising for people who don't like stimulants or can't take them for other reasons, slowly gaining popularity as well. Unfortunately not yet approved for adults in Europe, or I would have tried it. I'm fine with stimulants, but I'm a little wary of the effects on heart health over decades and I would like my appetite back. I also dislike that w…

This stuff knocked me on my ass when I took it. I literally had to lie down on numerous occasions. I'm just an anecdotal case, but it unfortunately did not work for me at all.

Would you describe the effect as fatigue?

Something else?

Thanks.

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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Post by wordofx »

lambdas wrote: post #142
wordofx wrote: post #126

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I couldn’t disagree more. I went to the doctors at 20 for suspect ADHD, I loved Maths more than anything but my degree was going terribly. I couldn’t focus on the correct things to get the work done, I had no sense of time or organisation, everything was an eternity away until it was due now. Time went on and it got worse and worse. Even non-academic, fun became a chore. Making music, playing games, going out; thinki…

It’s not one dimensional. Every man and his dog now claims to have ADHD. It used to be a legitimate thing that a few people legitimately have. But now people are like “oh I can’t focus doing my laundry I must have adhd feed me drugs”

We shove drugs down kids throats claiming they have adhd because they can’t focus in economics class.

It’s no different from depression. We used to treat people with depression. Now we just go straight for the drugs.

If you get offended by the majority being called out for their non existent issues that’s on you. But you should be taking offense to people who claim to have ADHD when they don’t.

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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Post by tgaj »

dailykoder wrote: post #139
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>We label people and throw drugs at them and call them abnormal when in reality they aren’t doing what makes them happy. We try to force them to be happy doing shit. We call them abnormal, because they are abnormal. It can be seen in brain scans, that the ADHD brain behaves different than most other brains. But that obviously doesn't imply that any Person with ADHD should take drugs because of that. Drugs are not a s…

IMHO there is still no way to detect ADHD by brain scan. Please provide link, maybe my knowledge is outdated.

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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Post by thih9 »

They also offer an OTC version.

> EndeavorOTC is the only FDA-authorized digital therapeutic for ADHD available without a prescription.

I wish there was a comparison between the two - or is the age requirement (18+ for otc) the only difference?

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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Post by phito »

wordofx wrote: post #156
lambdas wrote: post #142

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I couldn’t disagree more. I went to the doctors at 20 for suspect ADHD, I loved Maths more than anything but my degree was going terribly. I couldn’t focus on the correct things to get the work done, I had no sense of time or organisation, everything was an eternity away until it was due now. Time went on and it got worse and worse. Even non-academic, fun became a chore. Making music, playing games, going out; thinki…

It’s not one dimensional. Every man and his dog now claims to have ADHD. It used to be a legitimate thing that a few people legitimately have. But now people are like “oh I can’t focus doing my laundry I must have adhd feed me drugs” We shove drugs down kids throats claiming they have adhd because they can’t focus in economics class. It’s no different from depression. We used to treat people with depression. Now we j…

Based on the ADHD-content I get recommended online, I agree there seems to be a bunch of people wrongly self diagnosing with ADHD and romanticizing it. It's really cringe and annoying. However, I can assure you that it exists and that people really do suffer from it. I would never use it as an excuse for anything, I actually never mention my diagnosis IRL, but it is useful to know why I struggle with some things that others seem fine with.

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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Post by viraptor »

tgaj wrote: post #157
dailykoder wrote: post #139

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>We label people and throw drugs at them and call them abnormal when in reality they aren’t doing what makes them happy. We try to force them to be happy doing shit. We call them abnormal, because they are abnormal. It can be seen in brain scans, that the ADHD brain behaves different than most other brains. But that obviously doesn't imply that any Person with ADHD should take drugs because of that. Drugs are not a s…

IMHO there is still no way to detect ADHD by brain scan. Please provide link, maybe my knowledge is outdated.

I haven't heard of the brain scan part, but AA levels can be used as biomarkers https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.mehy.2013.11.018

Edit: found this https://sci-hub.se/https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/... - apparently there are some indicators.

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