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Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Post by novagameco »

zamadatix wrote: post #136
novagameco wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my state, it's illegal to go over the speed limit at any point, for any reason. If you want to pass someone, you do so in the left lane, at the speed limit, and then move back over to the middle/right lane. And you best believe you'll get pulled over

In my particular state things tend to be a lot more nuanced. E.g. at the surrounding highway of a major city the typical traffic speed will be 10-15 over the posted and it's 20-25 that gets people pulled over. Go about an hour out from that city and you may be on a stretch of highway where going 5 over is a ticket. Very rarely is anywhere going e.g. 2 mph going to get you pulled over but it does happen some places. W…

In my state, 20-25 over can get you arrested. Do it multiple times and you can go to jail

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Post by gambiting »

bigfudge wrote: post #144
kodt wrote: post #70

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This could make it impossible or dangerous to pass in many situations where it may be necessary to temporarily exceed the speed limit.

You sound like a motoring journalist. Honestly, if you’re exceeding the speed limit to pass you’re unlikely to be gaining much anyway. 99% of the time people should just chill out and accept that driving a car already comes with so many unpaid externalities that not killing other people with your tonne of steel is a reasonable compromise. Speed is the major contributor to mortality and injury on the roads (and in dev…

>>Also, can some describe in detail a scenario where accelerating makes things safer than simply slowing down

Mostly in a situation where you've already messed up. Like you're in a middle of an overtake and suddenly you realize you're not going to make it before the incoming car, speeding up to close the gap can save your life in a way that slamming the brakes and just getting hit head-on wouldn't.

And yes, you shouldn't have gotten into that position in the first place. But if you did then accelerating can save your life(obviously dependant on the specific situation, it's an extreme edge case of course).

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Post by itishappy »

adrianN wrote: post #77
robertlagrant wrote: post #37

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Ebikes go where bikes go, that's why. They can mingle with pedestrians. They don't require a licence to operate.

Cars mingle with pedestrians and cyclists every day.

Right, hence the license.

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Post by numpad0 »

kodt wrote: post #70
VyseofArcadia wrote: post #25

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Agreed that the general case is hard to solve. I think you could at least make a case for solving a simpler problem. What's the highest legal speed limit in the country in which the car was sold? Set a global speed limit to that.

This could make it impossible or dangerous to pass in many situations where it may be necessary to temporarily exceed the speed limit.

Hot take: temporarily exceeding the speed limit to "match flow of traffic" and such are nonsense and should be phased out. Along streetside parking.

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Post by HenryBemis »

Lammy wrote: post #48

I am going to hold on to my 2013 car for as long as possible. Fuck this future where everything “““needs””” to spy on me and everywhere I go.

Expect that soon enough they will ask people to put some colored sticker in their car, depending on the age of the car, the technology of the engine, and then you won't be allowed to drive "here" or "there" or you will need a super expensive "pollution-pass".

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Post by zamadatix »

novagameco wrote: post #147
isatty wrote: post #133

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And what state is that? I do know that some states are over zealous about this but two vehicles driving next to each other slowing gaining on another to overtake is also creating a dangerous road situation. This is taught when you take your written test in CA. Trucks don’t really have a choice which is why it’s normal for them to do so even on a two lane highway.

Virginia > two vehicles driving next to each other slowing gaining on another to overtake is also creating a dangerous road situation Then perhaps you shouldn't pass if it's not safe to do so. My problem with everyone in this thread and who is against speed limiters is: the subtext is that they want to go faster than the speed limit so they can arrive faster. It's simply the fact that people are willing to engage is…

I think it's more the idea that the speed limit should be reasonably close to what'd be unsafe for long periods, not pressed to the absolute border between what a safe speed and a psychotic speed would be. From that perspective it makes sense that, while you'd ideally like to just go 65 the whole way without obstruction, if you have to pass it's still reasonably to go 67 and do it in a third of the time than clamp to specifically 65 out of ideological principles. If going 67 is just unfathomable from a safety perspective then the problem is probably the speed limit being 65 not what people do to pass at a reasonable rate.

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Post by masterj »

Hacker News: This is absurd! The tech doesn't exist!

Reality: It's existed for years, and has already been successfully tested in pilots https://www.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/027-23/mayor-ad...

Sometimes you should try looking at the real world instead of trying to assume from first principles.

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Post by Zigurd »

At about 1.4 million annually, and roughly half are people not in cars, it's only surprising cars and speeds are not more closely regulated. Instead, vehicle makers are allowed to raise the hood line on trucks because it's macho. Which causes more death and worse injury.

Re: Speed limiters now mandatory in all new EU cars

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Post by zamadatix »

novagameco wrote: post #151
zamadatix wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my particular state things tend to be a lot more nuanced. E.g. at the surrounding highway of a major city the typical traffic speed will be 10-15 over the posted and it's 20-25 that gets people pulled over. Go about an hour out from that city and you may be on a stretch of highway where going 5 over is a ticket. Very rarely is anywhere going e.g. 2 mph going to get you pulled over but it does happen some places. W…

In my state, 20-25 over can get you arrested. Do it multiple times and you can go to jail

Well that's the funny part: it does in my state too... depending on the part you do it!
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