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Twilio confirms data breach after hackers leak 33M Authy user phone numbers

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Re: Twilio confirms data breach after hackers leak 33M Authy user phone numbers

#151

Authy makes it hard to migrate away. Anyone know how to get the seed of the 2FA codes? Is there really no export option?

I thought I had a lot of totp codes to migrate but then it turned out I didn't use many of them. After deducting them, there remained 10 apps that I needed to migrate. It took me an hour to port them to bitwarden manually.

Re: Twilio confirms data breach after hackers leak 33M Authy user phone numbers

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I just migrated off of Authy last week but I was probably caught in this breach, ugh. Never liked it but they make it extremely difficult to export your data. I used this project for exporting: https://github.com/alexzorin/authy EDIT: it appears this project was actually using the unauthenticated endpoint (used in breach, too) to facilitate exporting, lol. Good luck to anyone trying to get off of Authy, Twilio really…

Has anyone found a single open-source app that supports both mobile and desktop though? That was the attraction of Authy before they killed their desktop apps.

The desktop version somewhat contradicts the purpose of 2FA.

Re: Twilio confirms data breach after hackers leak 33M Authy user phone numbers

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One step we have taken is to build an auth system that requires you as the developer to explicitly specify the security of an endpoint using a decorator. If no decorator is provided, then the endpoint is completely locked down even to admins (effectively disabled). If an endpoint is decorated with something that is considered dangerous (i.e. public access), that triggers additional review steps. In addition, the auth…

.NET web apps / APIs have an option where you can require authorization on all controllers (and their actions) by default. If you need an anonymous controller/action, you can use the `[AllowAnonymous]` attribute on it.

You can easily do the same with most (all?) routers using middleware. Whether you get it slotted in your roadmap is a different story.

Re: Twilio confirms data breach after hackers leak 33M Authy user phone numbers

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post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has anyone found a single open-source app that supports both mobile and desktop though? That was the attraction of Authy before they killed their desktop apps.

The desktop version somewhat contradicts the purpose of 2FA.

Not really, 2FA is literally just that: a second factor.

It makes it unlikely someone has access to both your password and the TOTP URI. So, if you leak your password on a public forum (for example), the person who gets that is not likely to also have your TOTP info.

Re: Twilio confirms data breach after hackers leak 33M Authy user phone numbers

#155
And they wonder in random organizations and businesses that I am not willing to give all my personal details right away on first contact despite their 'utmost importance' of handling my data very securely, all this just to be informed about their product. And they seems to be offended with a "but we did it so for many years now" on my refusal and saying goodbye if they try to insist this "company policy".

Unluckily sooo many give zero or negative fáck among their potential and existing customers. This includes businesses providing medical services sending all the clien't data and medical results in clear text email and even declaring for their own convenience that "The property and copyright or other intellectual property rights in the contents of any document or images provided to you shall remain our property", for your ultrasound results. Your medical results are their property for those use their services. So they do as they plase with their data, not your data, not your concern if it is protected or not. And people go there and rate this service 4.8 on google, insane. Of course no-one really reads TOC, not even for sensitive medical services. People do not learn.

Re: Twilio confirms data breach after hackers leak 33M Authy user phone numbers

#156

While this sucks, my phone is in so many data breaches at this point it doesn’t matter. The spam-to-ham ratio on my phone number is now far worse than any other channel for me. The traditional phone network is at risk of going the way of the fax machine if we don’t do something about the spam problem like we did with email. If I’m on a call, even with family, it’s now almost exclusively on FaceTime/zoom/meet/etc. I c…

> I can’t remember the last time I talked on the traditional phone network or received a legitimate call Doctors and dentists. Most of the calls I get are spam, but then the MOST important calls I get are from doctors, labs, and dentists. I do as much as possible online of course, but not all of these professionals have good online systems and phone calls are often required. Sometimes you know what number they're goi…

I recently had to help my father organize his medical visits.

Dealing with his healthcare providers was a bit of a pain, but it was way worse because he has stopped answering calls, primarily because of the call spam rate. I think because he owns his own business, he never fails to hand out his contact info when he is shopping, and he owns his own business (so his contact info is published by the city).

His phone provider has a feature to opt into spam filtering, his phone has another, and I downloaded a spam list filtering app for him. I disabled the ringer for numbers not in his contact list. I did similar actions to reduce spam in his text messages.

This was a good triage, but the damage is already done to his psyche. He doesn’t answer the phone anymore.

Re: Twilio confirms data breach after hackers leak 33M Authy user phone numbers

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How convenient for the data collecting companies that so generously sponsor the new & free services, that our democratically controlled communication infrastructure looses in value.

Advertising is a cancer on modern society. It will metastasize to any new communications medium, public or private, and destroy it from within. People will switch to new medium that offer less spam, but advertisers quickly follow to strip-mine the new channel. A cycle of life, so to speak.

It’s also so annoying circular. We spend money to get more clients but this stops being effective at a certain point so now you’re just spending money to advertise for the sake of it or the status, and could even be losing money by doing so.

Re: Twilio confirms data breach after hackers leak 33M Authy user phone numbers

#159

Jesus fucking Christ. Can these companies learn how to write software? Quality is dropping like dogs. Twilio used to be a good company and now they are utter shite. Such a shame. Leetcode and bad hiring practices have done this to our industry.

It seems much easier to pin the ever-decreasing quality of software on the practice of trying to keep everything secret (propriety). Like, obviously it's not secure if they don't let people audit it...

Re: Twilio confirms data breach after hackers leak 33M Authy user phone numbers

#160
is this just like

anotherservicetwilioruined.example.com/api/doesthispersonhaveanaccount?phone=+12012000000

and then the service says 'yeah that number has an account' (and nothing else?)? then whomever repeats that for every possible phone number?

or... more than that?

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