Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

neowin.net

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

151–160 of 392 posts

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

#151

Post by pseudalopex »

dan-robertson wrote: post #142
smolder wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no justification here for turning the feature on for users who have already explicitly chosen not to use it, or for not presenting them with the choice.

I mean, the person who caused windows to behave this way surely had some justification, even if it was self-serving. I think a choice would be better but I also think that being on is a reasonable default for users. I don’t understand the point about users explicitly opting out (and that being switched?). I would chalk such a thing down to the kind of big company systematic nefariousness you get (no one needs to say…

They had a motive. Not justification.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

#154

Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

Syonyk wrote: post #24

I'm not the target market for Windows, haven't been for a while. But I genuinely cannot figure out what Microsoft's vision for Windows 11 is. Or if they even have one beyond "idk, shove crap in, meet OKR, get promotion... maybe?" For a while, it seemed like they were focused on making sure that they could link as much of your activity on your computer to you, as a person - witness the ever-increasing challenge of an…

> But I genuinely cannot figure out what Microsoft's vision for Windows 11 is. Or if they even have one beyond "idk, shove crap in, meet OKR, get promotion... maybe?"

100% agreed

I can't figure out who MS's target audience is for Windows now. They're losing marketshare to Apple in the casual home user market. Heck, based on my last two jobs, even developers are switching to MacBook, though I acknowledge that that's confirmation bias.

Technical users are happily switching to Linux or Mac.

That leaves who else? Gamers? They're still stuck on Windows depending on the games they play. Anything written in a cross-platform like Unity is fine, and Proton is getting better and better, and now even many anti-cheat software has a native Linux client, but some major games with proprietary engines still struggle under Linux. Hopefully more games start getting native Steam Deck support, which ends up making them Linux native.

But like...how many customers is MS going to burn for short-term gains?

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

#157

Post by europeanNyan »

Just this weekend, I've decided to nuke my Windows 11 drive because of Recall and all the shitty practives and give a sweet extra 1GB SSD to Linux Mint for storage. Didn't know Microsoft would give me additional reasons to feel good for doing it.

I'm not missing anything. I've got the newest Nvidia drivers and kernel which were all very easy to install and one search away to find instructions on how to do it. Everything is rock solid. No surprise dark patterns, no enabling/disabling of issues. I keep Timeshift backups of the last 2 days and one for last week and month. If whatever I am playing with on the system goes haywire, I just restore my system with Timeshift.

I've also been giving up on modern gaming, too much enshittification (loot boxes, engagement driven gameplay, messages for modern audiences, etc.) happening lately, but everything I've thrown at Proton ran great. I've been rediscovering the great libraries of retro gaming consoles, especially the DS and 3DS so my computer is actually a workhorse now and my gaming is single player retro bliss.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

#158

Post by gleenn »

gear54rus wrote: post #138
lolinder wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if so, why? Have you tried installing Windows 11 without signing in to a Microsoft account? It's very difficult to do and the instructions online keep having to change as Microsoft makes it more and more difficult. What I'm finding now [0] involves using a hotkey to open command prompt at a certain part of the installation process and running a command to disable the internet before you proceed. [0] https://www.tom…

I guess mine just came pre-installed without that. But my point still stands, just don't interact with the crap and you're still somewhat safer.

You are definitely right but I still feel like this is Stockholm syndrome, if they keep dark-patterning people more and more into logging in, it doesn't really make this a substantial improvement, they'll update they're way into tracking you and uploading your personal files somehow.

Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

#159

Post by walterbell »

mianos wrote: post #87

At least a Mac alllows you to have a local account without iCloud. We are not allowed iCloud accounts on our work lappies due to the risk of client data leakage. It seems to me, unless the Microsoft cloud is 100% trusted you would not be able to use it at many places. (We do have centrally managed computers and accounts).

> We are not allowed iCloud accounts on our work lappies

Is it possible to have an Apple account for apps and security updates, without iCloud? On iOS, the default login panel in Settings will sign into both iCloud and App Store. To avoid iCloud, one must use the App Store app to sign into "Media and Purchases", rather than using Settings.

Post reply on HN