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I believe that, in retrospect, these schoolchildren will greatly appreciate this decision.
To me, the necessity to have a banning "law" is a sign of failure. We should teach children the why and how, incentive them to put, by themselves, their phone in a lockbox and eventually consider them as growing adult and not irresponsible childs.
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> Can you imagine trying to text “I’m being followed by someone on XYZ road” on a Nokia-style keyboard? Do dumb phones support sending GPS coordinates to emergency services like smartphones do? what do you think the world looked like 15 years ago? the 1-week is a punitive punishment. you know you can't have this. you deliberately chose to use it. if you get it back at the end of the day, so what? you've lost nothing.…
Taking people's property is not acceptable. Parents can confiscate phones if they want. Schools can suspend disruptive pupils. The UK has no sense of personal autonomy. Culturally no limits on controlling people to suit authority preference.
why does a student have the right to bring a banned object to a class and keep it? you would instead suspend the student? who do you think prefers that to confiscation? the student? the parent? teacher?
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but why? if im a teacher getting wind of cyberbullying, or a photo being shared, what should i do? call the police every time? im telling you, the police will not like that policy any more than the students. you're in a school. you don't have the right to do whatever you please.
I agree that teachers should be able to enforce discipline in schools. With that said, I've got no idea what schools should do about things like sexting. If I was a teacher and I confiscated a phone which might have illegal photos of underage students on it, I wouldn't want to turn a blind eye to that. But I also sure as hell wouldn't want to search it myself. I'd want that done by someone of unimpeachable character.
I think many of the comments in opposition to this are coming from people that do not have children. Many of those in support do. I speak as a parent of a child, and I think “parent brain” will affect your thoughts on this. Having said that, I grew up on dial up and very low tech HTML. Not social media which is an entirely different beast. There is a book called The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Child…
Haidt is a reactionary who makes grandiose conjectures about the Kids These Days with little real scientific evidence to back them up. He's the same guy who threw a fit over safe spaces in colleges and made them out to be a way bigger deal than the were/are.
He can be reactionary, and I don't agree with all of his views. But he is spot on about the negtive effect of smartphones and social media.
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They pretty much all have chromebooks or laptops these days that can perform the same actions if it's school related. Also, study hall is an elective class. You still need to behave in study hall. The purpose is to study. Lunch could be an exception, but not really. There should be enough time to eat and socialize just a little. The lunch periods are not excessively long.
Try to juggle a Chromebook, textbook, and a worksheet on a one of those single seat desks and see if you start reaching for a phone. Chromebook’s still aren’t nearly as integrated into schools as you might expect.
What was the impetus for schools to become "smartphone-friendly"? In the 00s, phones/smartphones in class weren't a thing.
yeah I am similarly confused - i went to school in 2016, firmly the smartphone era - and phones would absolutely be confiscated on sight
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Auto corrupt of study hall, also known as a free period. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Study_hall
That would be very unusual until the final two years of school in England.
But the GCSEs were September 1998 to June 2000, and the UK government loves to fiddle with education, so I wouldn't be shocked if you told me that had changed.
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That would be very unusual until the final two years of school in England.
As a predefined period sure, but I assume kids in crutches still skip PE and whatnot, though you might be calling it something else. Whatever you call a disruption in normal education such as when a teacher gets in a car accident on the way to work and suddenly there’s a non educational period for kids.
Supply teacher. No idea how the details were worked out, but there was always a substitute if the usual was unavailable for whatever reason.
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Good for you, and good for her. I wish I had kids, but sadly not yet. Myself, I grew up with a Commodore 64, whose user manual didn't only teach me to code, but was even part of me learning to read. But everyone is different, what worked fine for me isn't necessarily even a good idea for others. > This is about a developing child’s mind and the cautionary principle of knowing with the evidence we have now that it is…
I had a computer growing up. It wasn’t always connected to the Internet. I had dial up occasionally. But I cannot imagine my child growing up with social media is a good thing. Facebook, MySpace, Instagram, TikTok didn’t exist when I was a kid. And while the genie is out of the bottle, I want to minimize the exposure of social media. The smartphone experience is shrouded in social media. I want to do everything in my…
There's a reason I was comparing social media to hard liquor (and, if you read between the lines, gambling) — we are basically agreed on the harms side of the equation :)
I think many of the comments in opposition to this are coming from people that do not have children. Many of those in support do. I speak as a parent of a child, and I think “parent brain” will affect your thoughts on this. Having said that, I grew up on dial up and very low tech HTML. Not social media which is an entirely different beast. There is a book called The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Child…
My oldest is only 7 right now but I'm also seriously considering middle and high school options for him that severely restrict phone use. We play Minecraft on the weekends, he does MakeCode Arcade coding tutorials, and occasionally gets (heavily supervised) YouTube time. I don't think he's missing out on opportunities to become skilled with computers.