Elixir 1.17 released: set-theoretic types in patterns, durations, OTP 27

Post by ranyefet » Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 7:42 PM UTC

impulser_ wrote: post #123

julienmarie wrote: post #75

The last few years the Elixir ecosystem has started to become the simplest solution to so many use cases: - Web development with Phoenix and Liveview is immensely enjoyable and fast - AI with NX, Axon, Bumblebee - Audio and Video streaming and manipulation with Membrane - CQRS and Event Sourcing with Commanded - Embedded with Nerves to make your own devices - Mobile apps with Liveview Native ( in development ) - Queu…

When you use Elixir you have to go into it knowing you might have to end up maintaining any library you are using because the vast majority of Elixir libraries are abandoned. You have to search through libraries to find out which one is being maintained. For example if you want to use an OpenAI API client, you wouldn't want to use the most starred one because that hasn't been maintained in 7 months. If you just use P…

Post by AlchemistCamp » Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 11:43 PM UTC

valenterry wrote: post #144

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #140

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Go back? Have you ever worked on a significant project in either Erlang or Elixir? If so, what issues did you experience?

This was meant for the statical typesystem. I've worked without statical typesystem in other languages, yes. (never professionally on the BEAM though)

Post by Vayl » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 7:43 AM UTC

pjullrich wrote: post #117

vohk wrote: post #101

Any recommendations for an entry point into Elixir? I've been teaching myself Rust through resources like Rustlings and 100-exercises-to-learn-rust, and I've found that approach to be pleasantly accessible. I've yet to find something similar for Elixir, whether interactive or just well laid-out.

Shameless plug: I created a video course that shows you how to build and deploy a product with Elixir really quickly. https://indiecourses.com/catalog/build-an-mvp-with-elixir-6i...

Post by AlchemistCamp » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 9:34 AM UTC

arrowsmith wrote: post #154

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #153

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This seems to be the case for 99% of people I've noticed worrying about types for Elixir. I've worked with a wide spectrum of type systems and none of the things that caused issues for me due to typing in large JS or Ruby projects ever did in Elixir. The schema-based structs and pattern-matching make a huge difference. I don't feel quite as confident of a poorly tested Elixir code base as one written in Rust, but I'd…

This is my experience too. Elixir's lack of static types never caused me nearly as many problems as they have in other languages; it's surprising how little I've missed a static type system. I wrote about it here: https://phoenixonrails.com/blog/you-might-not-need-gradual-t...

Post by crenwick » Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 12:19 PM UTC

josevalim wrote: post #98

elbasti wrote: post #56

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I love elixir. I use it for basically everything. And LiveBook has become my go-to place to start building toy software. I just can't do liveview. I have a very hard time grokking it, and it has a lot of footguns. (ex: if you need to remember to perform auth checks both doing a `pipe_through` in a router and using the `on_mount` callback in a LiveView, see [0].) In fact, the fact that the above sentence has zero mean…

Thanks for the link. This is my fault because the sentence is ambiguous. Where it tries to explain that "you need to remember to perform auth checks both", it rather means that you need to protect controller routes and LiveView routes the same way, but for a single LiveView, you don't need to do both. I will try to clarify it! If you have other footguns in mind, feel to shot me an email at jose dot valim on gmail!