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Google just updated its algorithm. The Internet will never be the same

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Re: Google just updated its algorithm. The Internet will never be the same

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Post by EasyMark »

mejutoco wrote: post #68
rsolva wrote: post #40

We need to make bookmarks a common way to access the web again! So many people use Google or other search engines to access even the most basic sites, instead of storing a bookmark or typing out the whole URL. I have used a simple bookmarking strategy in Firefox for some years now, simply storing everything and anything I suspect I might want to retrieve later. I give each bookmark a few quick keywords and store it a…

Regarding desktop bookmarks: Adding tags on Firefox is so natural (ctrl+D and maybe tab for comma separated tags). In Chrome it is not possible without an extension.

can't you just save them on the end of the title? doesnt it search through the titles when searching the bookmarks? It's all just a big grep through your bookmarks anyway whether it's in tags or titles

Re: Google just updated its algorithm. The Internet will never be the same

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Post by EasyMark »

cageface wrote: post #127
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, and, along the same lines, directories should perhaps also make a comeback -- like the old Yahoo! Directory or DMOZ. Just a carefully curated and organized list of trusted sites that are made and managed by humans and for humans. Unlike, say, DMOZ, the directory of the future should be easier to navigate and incorporate "modern" features -- and it should also be easily searchable. (All sites on the directory ar…

I’ve been saying for two years now that curated directories are poised to make a comeback on the web. It just needs a critical mass of curators. I think this is why those awesome-$tech lists are so popular.

I mean they might have a mini revival but i think we've gone too far to change the process of the general population. Indexes appeal to more organized people who like such things, most of us just throw everything in a pile in a well known location (google) and rifle through that.

Re: Google just updated its algorithm. The Internet will never be the same

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Post by EasyMark »

marcinzm wrote: post #123

I find Google worse every day. The latest thing I noticed is a ton of AI generated sites at the top that "summarize" things. Mostly the same format. Except they're usually wrong in many ways. One site kept saying Llama 3 is a Mixture of Experts model despite it not being one.

the AI sites are what got me off google, DDG, etc. Kagi seems to be a bit better and avoiding that garbage although I still see ones there from time to time. Usually a dumb af site name gives it away.

Re: Google just updated its algorithm. The Internet will never be the same

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Post by pants2 »

jayski wrote: post #46
throwaway211 wrote: post #28

Two big reasons people add Reddit to search phrases is because Reddit's search isn't functional and to deprioritise Ad Junk from search. It's to fix broken search, which gets more broken - more unwanted Ad Junk. But Google's an advertising company with it's ad search device in everyone's pocket. At least it's reached sufficient post-don't-be-evil to be honestly shameless, even if it does employ people in PR with brok…

Reddit is the only social network I use. They're really dropping the ball by not having a fantastic search tool. I know search is a difficult problem, but with the kind of budget and engineering power they have it has to be solvable.

Reddit had a great search engine called PushShift which was maintained and run by one guy. That service doesn't work since their API changes, unfortunately.

Re: Google just updated its algorithm. The Internet will never be the same

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Post by balder1991 »

dherikb wrote: post #12
david-gpu wrote: post #4

Over the past several months I find Google search has become completely useless to find anything other than online retailers. I thought it may have been just something about my profile, but this article suggests it may have been an update on their end. Meanwhile, Duckduckgo still provides decent results in my experience.

I have a different perception, really. They are promoting more the Reddit results in the last months and, at least for me, I'm able to find faster what I want.

Now it’ll be a matter of time before Reddit gets an order of magnitude more bots and spam.

Re: Google just updated its algorithm. The Internet will never be the same

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Post by balder1991 »

bimodalblitz wrote: post #84
rsolva wrote: post #40

We need to make bookmarks a common way to access the web again! So many people use Google or other search engines to access even the most basic sites, instead of storing a bookmark or typing out the whole URL. I have used a simple bookmarking strategy in Firefox for some years now, simply storing everything and anything I suspect I might want to retrieve later. I give each bookmark a few quick keywords and store it a…

I just started using BookmarkOS: https://BookmarkOS.com

Interesting. I’ve been sort of using Notion but by creating pages of concepts I want to save interesting quotes, links etc. It makes searching later very easy and also helps me build my own knowledge over time.

Re: Google just updated its algorithm. The Internet will never be the same

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Post by Exuma »

ADeerAppeared wrote: post #138
Exuma wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm... really? They don't do their own crawling and indexing? How does one simply repurpose google's index... just technically or business speaking?

Google has an API. One just pays to use that. The problem being the aforementioned conflict of interest. The moment you're a competitor to Google Search (or any of Google's other products), they can kill your API access and ruin you.

Damn... that makes Kagi way less exciting. I thought they had some secret sauce. It's just a paid wrapper WTF
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