DuckDuckGo was down • Hacker News Board

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

#151

Post by michael9423 » Thu, May 23, 2024, 11:28 AM UTC

So much about DuckDuckGo's claim that Bing is only a part of their search results.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

#152

Post by danesparza » Thu, May 23, 2024, 11:29 AM UTC

beretguy wrote: post #63

alentred wrote: post #14

https://www.bing.com/ is down too at the moment. Curiously I cannot find a "health" or a "status" page for either.

https://xkcd.com/2347/

Wow. This.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

#153

Post by us0r » Thu, May 23, 2024, 11:30 AM UTC

mhuffman wrote: post #141

Can't wait to find out what happened here. This seems to be a massive outage. Interesting how fragile things become when so much technology is concentrated into just a few companies.

My money is on expired domain somewhere or security certificate.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

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Post by Springtime » Thu, May 23, 2024, 11:31 AM UTC

michael9423 wrote: post #151

So much about DuckDuckGo's claim that Bing is only a part of their search results.

Prior to the Russia-Ukraine situation they actually did offer Yandex results if you set your region to Russia. It was interesting sometimes to see if there were any more useful top results. So at one point the claim was accurate.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

#155

Post by beretguy » Thu, May 23, 2024, 11:31 AM UTC

Use Brave search for now instead.

https://search.brave.com

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

#156

Post by radiorental » Thu, May 23, 2024, 11:32 AM UTC

mhuffman wrote: post #141

Can't wait to find out what happened here. This seems to be a massive outage. Interesting how fragile things become when so much technology is concentrated into just a few companies.

Genuine question, are distributed systems naturally more resilient?

I can see arguments for both sides. Your point and then the hidden failure modes without central observability and ownership. Nothing exists in isolation.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

#157

Post by jeffrallen » Thu, May 23, 2024, 11:32 AM UTC

theshrike79 wrote: post #144

mhuffman wrote: post #141

Can't wait to find out what happened here. This seems to be a massive outage. Interesting how fragile things become when so much technology is concentrated into just a few companies.

It's always DNS.

Unless it's Nagle. (Sorry animats.)

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

#158

Post by enkrs » Thu, May 23, 2024, 11:33 AM UTC

devnonymous wrote: post #148

Huh, of all those, ddg seems the odd one. I thought it used its own search service, didn't realise it was bing underneath. Even if that's not entirely true the fact that the home page is down due to the same reason that bing is down doesn't look good.

When the outage started, for me duckduckgo.com just returned no results with the searchbar visible. The ddg homepage was still working. I've been using "my search term !g" for now and ddg just redirects my search to Google, so I don't have to change search provider in browsers.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

#159

Post by re-thc » Thu, May 23, 2024, 11:33 AM UTC

mhuffman wrote: post #141

Can't wait to find out what happened here. This seems to be a massive outage. Interesting how fragile things become when so much technology is concentrated into just a few companies.

Used a Co-pilot enabled PC.

Re: DuckDuckGo was down

#160

Post by Dalewyn » Thu, May 23, 2024, 11:37 AM UTC

radiorental wrote: post #156

mhuffman wrote: post #141

Can't wait to find out what happened here. This seems to be a massive outage. Interesting how fragile things become when so much technology is concentrated into just a few companies.

Genuine question, are distributed systems naturally more resilient? I can see arguments for both sides. Your point and then the hidden failure modes without central observability and ownership. Nothing exists in isolation.

>are distributed systems naturally more resilient?

All else being equal: Yes.

It's like asking if a RAID1 is more resilient than a single drive.