0.10Gbps down & 0.02Gbps up… FCC updated just 2-months ago the minimum “broadband” as defined to now be 0.10Gbps up and 0.02Gbps down. https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-401205A2.pdf EDIT: updated typo (on "up/down")
Utah Locals Are Getting Cheap 10 Gbps Fiber Thanks to Local Governments
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#152> $150/month
Meanwhile I'm here in Sweden rocking 10 Gbit symmetrical from Bahnhof (<3) for 349 SEK/month (~$33/month).
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
What networking gear do you use inside your home? What router? Do they terminate an actual fiber connection (SFP+) to your home or you get 10GB Ethernet?
I’m not the op, but I can recommend the Unifi link aggregation switch and cheap Mellanox connectX3 cards. They are about $20 and are amazing. Fibre runs aren’t expensive but the transceivers are so copper DAC is good for short runs (as the connectors are built in). Thunderbolt sfp adaptors also work.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uh, how did the government forbid there from being more than one ISP in a neighborhood? The regionalization of ISPs is entirely their own doing to avoid competition.
> The regionalization of ISPs is entirely their own doing to avoid competition. And what mechanism did they use to do that?
There aren't that many large ISPs in the US. They know that if they compete they have to lower prices and if they don't compete they don't; so rather than compete and all of them accept lower prices (and worse margins) they don't.
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[2]: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/09/comca...
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#155I recently bought a house in Utah. Utopia is the best internet provider experience I've had so far (I've had Xfinity and Verizon previously). Speeds are typically 10-25 Mbps _faster_ than the advertised rate I'm paying for. Being able to have multiple (~5 or more) provider options to choose between is a welcome change from past monopolies I've been trapped in. Granted this all could change down the road (I hope not),…
Utopia provides an active ethernet connection to each subscriber with the specified bandwidth. This is superior to most fiber deployments, which are passive optical networks (GPON) where groups of 16-32 homes share a connection (usually 2.4 Gb down and 1.2 Gb up). I live in Utah and actively worked to get fiber in my small city. Utopia requires cities to guarantee a take rate (40% if I recall correctly) and taxpayers…
Same. Federal broadband funds led to fiber deployment here. We went from one ISP to ~10.
We went from 40Mb up w/ 40ms latency for $119 to 1Gb up w/ 4ms latency for $49.
Over 20+ years, I've read dozens of articles about major ISPs receiving government money/incentives (billions in total) to improve consumer options.
This is the first time I've witnessed an internet company keep that promise. Predictably, it wasn't a major ISP.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I can’t even use that much bandwidth. I built an opnsense box (part of my proxmox cluster) and passed through a dual 10gbe nic. That whole PC was cheaper than any off the shelf routing solution I could find. The rest of the network is going to take time... I suspect that im gonna end up with a few fiber runs in the house before all is said and done.
What networking gear do you use inside your home? What router? Do they terminate an actual fiber connection (SFP+) to your home or you get 10GB Ethernet?
I bought a dual nic intel card off amazon (its from china) works a treat. There is an OK switch after that to get the network working...
It's going to take me. a minute to build out the rest of the network. Switches and cards are NOT cheap for 10gb. I'll probably end up running SFP+ fiber to a few places around the house and putting in a drop or 3 for some 10gbe love in other rooms.
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#157The fastest I've been able to get quoted to my office in the centre of a UK town is 17 Mbps, and to home it's 34 Mbps.
The speed limits are both due to old infrastructure that's outside my control unless I move. Landlords aren't going to upgrade. In the central library where they have "superfast broadband" in this "superconnected city", it seems to be capped at 10 Mbps per user.
None of those products are worth it - my mid-range phone is faster and gets 20 to 100 Mbps down at different times of day, so I use that for internet connectivity instead. I was surprised at the phone connection speed recently, when I downloaded 30GB of LLMs in 30 minutes on the phone. But the latency is noticably poor.
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#158We’ve had symmetrical 1gb fiber owned and installed by our public utilities for almost two decades here in central Washington. Was $80 a month until a year or two ago, then it went down to $60.
Meanwhile over here in Bellevue, home of T-Mobile and (close enough) Microsoft, I’m stuck with Comcast or really crappy DSL. How is it that central WA gets way better internet than Bellevue? Oh right. Comcast lobbying.
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#160Ugh, it's a little annoying that I cannot get faster than 2 gigabit internet in NYC, and it cost me like $120/month. 2 gigabit is more than fast enough for pretty much anything I do, especially since most of the stuff in my house is on WiFi anyway, but I did get my house completely wired for 10 gigabits about a year ago to try and future-proof everything. It's frustrating that NYC is a super expensive place to live,…
Worst internet I ever had was at a Cupertino apartment…in 2013. Walked a mile to the office where we had blazing fiber. Manager said a lot of the valley outside of company offices was way behind cause of the cost of installation. Hope it’s improved.