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Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Post by lokar »

gfourfour wrote: post #90
jprd wrote: post #28

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Yes. They joined OpenAI with the understanding that it was meant to be an non-profit with a mission to benefit humanity.

This entire saga is really an example of the absurdity of non-profits and philanthropy in general. The only difference between nonprofit and for-profit entities is that nonprofits divert their profits to a nebulous “cause”, with the investors receiving nothing, while for-profits can distribute profits to their funders. Other than that, they are free to operate identically. Generally, entities subject to competitive p…

Matt Levine likes to say that the big Wall Street banks are socialist paradises that funnel almost all of the returns to the workers.

It happens everywhere

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

localfirst wrote: post #141
epolanski wrote: post #82

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Comments like this make me wonder whether I'm on reddit or HN. The future trajectory of AI isn't tied to Nvidia's stock in the same way the web didn't thrive or die on Cisco being the most valuable company in the world 24 years ago.

Except 24 years ago you didn't need Cisco to write HTML. Your analogy is not correct and it tells me you didn't bother to read my edit. I really shouldn't have to explain how this bubble ends.

Stock prices go up and down. A stock downswing very rarely has economical consequences for the company whose stock it is, and even more rarely does it have such consequences for other companies.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Post by ricardobeat »

localfirst wrote: post #138
peter_l_downs wrote: post #131

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First: Ilya in particular will be able to raise easily regardless of general market conditions because of his experience and track record. Second: > allow me to assist in your understanding of the bigger picture: large funds use VCs as money mules to increase Nvidia GPU sales through investments in AI startups and this is not sustainable. You have to be trolling (or I'm misunderstanding?) if you're arguing that a lar…

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This kind of wild speculation is not encouraged over here, and most people don't want garbage in the comments that they have to sift through, so "just ignore it" is not a valid defense. See the comment section of the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Literally the same people are left with the bag after each bubble

People who buy stocks based on hype, feed bull runs, and proceed to hold and try to time the market, "coincidentally" are usually left holding their bags. That in no way implies any kind of rigging beyond the basic dynamics of the stock market.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Post by coffeebeqn »

ru552 wrote: post #136
ptero wrote: post #24

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"Get next major feature to release and you can go as a friend" might have been part of an earlier agreement.

More like they iced him for the last 6 months to ensure he wasn’t taking their lead to a competitor. He probably hasn’t touched anything in that time.

Sitting on the roof?

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

nialv7 wrote: post #58
wavelander wrote: post #4

Altman's tweet ( https://x.com/sama/status/1790518031640347056?s=46 ) makes it seem as if he wanted to stay, and Ilya disagreed and "chose" to depart. Very interesting framing.

It could be a PR statement, it could also be genuine. From outside looking in there's no way to know, so I will just pretend this tweet doesn't exist.

It's PR for sure. A genuine announcement would have addressed the elephant in the room.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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ricardobeat wrote: post #153
localfirst wrote: post #138

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This kind of wild speculation is not encouraged over here, and most people don't want garbage in the comments that they have to sift through, so "just ignore it" is not a valid defense. See the comment section of the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Literally the same people are left with the bag after each bubble People who buy stocks based on hype, feed bull runs, and proceed to hold a…

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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Post by coffeebeqn »

zombiwoof wrote: post #73
wavelander wrote: post #4

Altman's tweet ( https://x.com/sama/status/1790518031640347056?s=46 ) makes it seem as if he wanted to stay, and Ilya disagreed and "chose" to depart. Very interesting framing.

Altman is the biggest con artist in tech.

What’s the con? Aren’t they constantly delivering frontier models?
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