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Re: GPT-4o

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Post by brainer »

OpenAI's Mission and the New Voice Mode of GPT-4

• Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, emphasizes two key points from their recent announcement. Firstly, he highlights their commitment to providing free access to powerful AI tools, such as ChatGPT, without advertisements or restrictions. This aligns with their initial vision of creating AI for the benefit of the world, allowing others to build amazing things using their technology. While OpenAI plans to explore commercial opportunities, they aim to continue offering outstanding AI services to billions of people at no cost.

• Secondly, Altman introduces the new voice and video mode of GPT-4, describing it as the best compute interface he has ever experienced. He expresses surprise at the reality of this technology, which provides human-level response times and expressiveness. This advancement marks a significant change from the original ChatGPT and feels fast, smart, fun, natural, and helpful. Altman envisions a future where computers can do much more than before, with the integration of personalization, access to user information, and the ability to take actions on behalf of users.

https://blog.samaltman.com/gpt-4o

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by moomoo11 »

modeless wrote: post #78
msoad wrote: post #58

They are admitting[1] that the new model is the gpt2-chatbot that we have seen before[2]. As many highlighted there, the model is not an improvement like GPT3->GPT4. I tested a bunch of programming stuff and it was not that much better. It's interesting that OpenAI is highlighting the Elo score instead of showing results for many many benchmarks that all models are stuck at 50-70% success. [1] https://twitter.com/Lia…

"not that much better" is extremely impressive, because it's a much smaller and much faster model. Don't worry, GPT-5 is coming and it will be better.

I really hope GPT5 is good. GPT4 sucks at programming.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by deegles »

what's the path from LLMs to "true" general AI? is it "only" more training power/data or will they need a fundamental shift in architecture?

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by cube2222 »

msoad wrote: post #58

They are admitting[1] that the new model is the gpt2-chatbot that we have seen before[2]. As many highlighted there, the model is not an improvement like GPT3->GPT4. I tested a bunch of programming stuff and it was not that much better. It's interesting that OpenAI is highlighting the Elo score instead of showing results for many many benchmarks that all models are stuck at 50-70% success. [1] https://twitter.com/Lia…

I think the live demo that happened on the livestream is best to get a feel for this model[0].

I don't really care whether it's stronger than gpt-4-turbo or not. The direct real-time video and audio capabilities are absolutely magical and stunning. The responses in voice mode are now instantaneous, you can interrupt the model, you can talk to it while showing it a video, and it understands (and uses) intonation and emotion.

Really, just watch the live demo. I linked directly to where it starts.

Importantly, this makes the interaction a lot more "human-like".

[0]: https://youtu.be/DQacCB9tDaw?t=557

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by hehdhdjehehegwv »

MP_1729 wrote: post #105

This thing continues to stress my skepticism for AI scaling laws and the broad AI semiconductor capex spending. 1- OpenAI is still working in GPT-4-level models. More than 14 months after the launch of GPT-4 and after more than $10B in capital raised. 2- The rhythm that token prices are collapsing is bizarre. Now a (bit) better model for 50% of the price. How people seriously expect these foundational model companies…

This is why think Meta has been so shrewd in their “open” model approach. I can run Llama3-70B on my local workstation with an A6000, which after the up-front cost of the card, is just my electricity bill.

So despite all the effort and cost that goes into these models, you still have to compete against a “free” offering.

Meta doesn’t sell an API, but they can make it harder for everybody else to make money on it.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by nice_byte »

101008 wrote: post #103

Are the employees in the demo high-directives of OpenAI? I can understand Altman being happy with this progress, but what about the medium/low employees? Didn't they watch Oppenheimer? Are they happy they are destroying humanity/work/etc for future and not-so-future generations? Anyone who thinks this will be like the previous work revolutions is nonsense. This replaces humans and will replace them even more on each…

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by simonw »

atgctg wrote: post #19

Tiktoken added support for GPT-4o: https://github.com/openai/tiktoken/commit/9d01e5670ff50eb74c... It has an increased vocab size of 200k.

Oh interesting, does that mean languages other than English won't be paying such a large penalty in terms of token lengths?

With previous tokenizers there was a notable increase in the number of tokens needed to represent non-English sentences: https://simonwillison.net/2023/Jun/8/gpt-tokenizers/

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Post by jcims »

famouswaffles wrote: post #45
Jensson wrote: post #24

The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. I'm not sure how much of that was that they had tested this over and over, but it is really hard to get that right so if they didn't fake it in some way I'd say that is revolutionary.

>The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. Consequences of audio2audio (rather than audio >text text>audio). Being able to manipulate speech nearly as well as it manipulates text is something else. This will be a revelation for language learning amongst other things. And you can interrupt it freely now!

Anyone who has used elevenlabs for voice generation has found this to be the case. Voice to voice seems like magic.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by banjoe »

I still need to talk very fast to actually chat with ChatGPT which is annoying. You can tell they didn't fix this based on how fast they are talking in the demo.
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