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Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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Post by giancarlostoro »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #56
giancarlostoro wrote: post #42

Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. Same with 13" laptops, I'm willing to sacrifice on screen real estate for saving myself from the back pain of carrying a 15" or larger laptop. Some of this is insanely impressive. I wonder how big the OS ROM (or whatever) is with all these models. For context, even if the en…

> Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet Aren't phones getting close to 7" now? The iPhone pro is 6.2", right?

I'm not a huge fan of it, but yeah they are. I actually prefer my phones to be somewhat smaller.

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Post by sulam »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #42

Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. Same with 13" laptops, I'm willing to sacrifice on screen real estate for saving myself from the back pain of carrying a 15" or larger laptop. Some of this is insanely impressive. I wonder how big the OS ROM (or whatever) is with all these models. For context, even if the en…

If your back is hurting from the ~1lb extra going from 13" to 15", I would recommend some body weight exercises. Your back will thank you, and you'll find getting older to be much less painful.

Regarding a small iPad, isn't that the iPad mini? 8" vs 7" is pretty close to what you're asking for.

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Post by shepherdjerred »

Am I wrong, or is raytracing on an iPad an _insane_ thing to announce? As far as I know, raytracing is the holy grail of computer graphics.

It's something that became viable on consumer gaming desktops just a few years ago, and now we have real-time ray tracing on a tablet.

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Post by alexpc201 »

I understand that they have delayed the announcement of these iPads until the M4 is ready, otherwise there is nothing interesting to offer to those who have an iPad Pro M2. I don't see the convenience of having a MacBook M3 and an iPad M4. If I can't run Xcode on an iPad M4, the MacBook is the smartest option; it has a bigger screen, more memory, and if you complement it with an iPad Air, you don't miss out on anything.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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Post by exabrial »

grzeshru wrote: post #105

Are these M-class chips available to be purchased on Digi-Key and Mouser? Do they have data sheets and recommended circuitry? I’d love to play with one just to see how difficult it is to integrate compared to, say, an stm8/32 or something.

absolutely not, and even if they were, they are not documented in the least bit and require extraordinary custom OS and other BLOBs to run

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Post by dhx »

M2's Neural Engine had 15TOPS, M3's 18TOPS (+20%) vs. M4's 38TOPS (+111%).

In transistor counts, M2 had 20BTr, M3 25BTr (+25%) and M4 has 28BTr (+12%).

M2 used TSMC N5P (138MTr/mm2), M3 used TSMC N3 (197MTr/mm2, +43%) and M4 uses TSMC N3E (215MTr/mm2, +9%).[1][2]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_nm_process#%225_nm%22_proces...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_nm_process#%223_nm%22_proces...

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Post by dotnet00 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #144
EduardoBautista wrote: post #13

The 256gb and 512gb models have 8gb of ram. The 1tb and 2tb models have 16gb. Not a fan of tying ram to storage. https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/

Honestly though, that's basically every tablet you cant change the ram, you get what you get and thats it. Maybe they should call them by different names like Pro Max for the ones with 16GB in order to make it more palatable? Small psychological hack.

The Samsung tablets at least still retain the SD card slot, so you can focus more on the desired amount of RAM and not worry too much about the built-in storage size.

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Post by giancarlostoro »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #100
giancarlostoro wrote: post #42

Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. Same with 13" laptops, I'm willing to sacrifice on screen real estate for saving myself from the back pain of carrying a 15" or larger laptop. Some of this is insanely impressive. I wonder how big the OS ROM (or whatever) is with all these models. For context, even if the en…

I've been using the iPad Mini for years. I'd love to see them add something to that form factor. I do see a lot of iPad Minis out there, but usually, as part of dedicated systems (like PoS, and restaurant systems). On the other hand, I have heard rumblings that Apple may release an even bigger phone, which I think might be overkill (but what do I know. I see a lot of those monster Samsung beasts, out there). Not sure…

I wanted to buy a Mini, but they had not updated the processors for them when I was buying, and they cost way more than a regular iPad at the time, I wanted to be budget conscious. I still sometimes regret not just going for the Mini, but I know eventually I'll get one sooner or later.

You know whats even funnier, when the mini came out originally, I made fun of it. I thought it was a dumb concept, oh my ignorance.

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