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Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Guys what are your favourite smart plug? I need one with easy integration with grafana, not sucking, and shipment to EU country?

I've switched from Shelly plugs to ThirdReality Zigbee outlets, I like having them on Zigbee rather than WiFi as I've installed like 8 now, and my consumer WiFi router doesn't like handling more than 15-20 devices.

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Is anyone aware of any other OSHW alternatives to this? Preferably with Ethernet. ESPHome would be preferable. The clones I can find are roughly the same price as the "original" hardware. ATM90E32AS seems to be ~$1 per channel on JLCPCB, so I'd imagine this could be pretty cheap with SMT assembly. My use case is like ~60 circuits.

The main one I'm away of is IotaWatt, which I've had running in my panel for the last few years without incident.

Eh, that's even more expensive. I think I'll end up having to develop my own hardware, even with Vue blowing $1500 for energy monitoring is a bit too much given how cheap the hardware can be.

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Hmm, just as a note, at least over here normal electricity companies provide the total level on their web site... no need to install any hardware.

In real time?

Mine only gives me a month-to-date, end of month for billing, and month-over-month for the last two years (plus the outside temperature for comparison).

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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Guys what are your favourite smart plug? I need one with easy integration with grafana, not sucking, and shipment to EU country?

I've switched from Shelly plugs to ThirdReality Zigbee outlets, I like having them on Zigbee rather than WiFi as I've installed like 8 now, and my consumer WiFi router doesn't like handling more than 15-20 devices.

The Shelly plugs suck so much. So slow.

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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I nerded out on this a few years ago and ended up buying a not well known device called a rainforest automation eagle ( https://www.rainforestautomation.com/rfa-z114-eagle-200-2/ ). Its a pretty straight forward little linux device that reads your smart meter (after being enrolled via your utility). It exposes an xml api that I bridge to Prometheus ( https://github.com/kklipsch/reagle ). I also bridge my utility (Com…

Could you share how do you combine the hourly cost with wattage readings?

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

#157
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There are 2 ways to design these. They could use a regular relay, or they could use a solid state relay. Solid state relays have widespread fraud. Like 60% of the ones on amazon will catch fire or fail before they hit the rated current. Trade suppliers generally don't sell them at >30 amps. Regular relays up to 10 amps are cheap and reliable. Beyond that, they get expensive surprisingly fast, and the reliability is h…

Is it the switching that kills the relay or is it enough to start/stop the load? E.g. if I have a 10A smart plug monitoring power on a small waist-tall freezer in the garage will it eventually damage the switching function?

A mains connected circuit designed to minimum costs could have all sorts of corner cuts: bad capacitors, no overvoltage protection, no back EMF from load protection, bad isolation to the driving circuit, etc, so that it could work flawlessly for decades, but also stop working after a while because of a spark that welded the contacts together, or mains voltage to enter the driving circuit because of moisture and insufficient creepage between high and low voltage tracks, etc. I use a lot of cheap Chinese products in non critical contexts, but I'd avoid them with mains voltage or in any safety critical use.

Re: Monitoring energy usage with smart plugs, Prometheus and Grafana

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You're running all your flat's power through that $14 Chinese rubbish and never assumed that shortcuts were taken or quality would be an issue? How do you know it will continue to function as a circuit breaker and isn't just a piece of wire inside? For the uninitiated, CE marking is meaningless (it allows for self-certification). I'd like to see Big Clive do a teardown of one of those.

> How do you know it will continue to function as a circuit breaker and isn't just a piece of wire inside? I don't care. I connected my previous breaker after it.

The fire hazard from the cheap breaker is still present. Your existing one protects the downstream circuit but the Chinese breaker itself is a safety hazard.

You should care about the quality of these devices, especially ones that provide safety.

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