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Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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1) You see recently visited apps on top of search results. Same applies for Google/Yandex (unless you turned off specific personalization settings). It is a feature to save your time from scrolling. 2) Post on Reddit is FUD from competitors (newly created account included). People who transfer C$150k know exactly what to do when they lose money (no, they don't visit /r/Bitcoin to ask "any chance of fund recovery or a…

When I installed it, it was the #1 organic search result. Other commenters report seeing the same app as #2 organic search result.

Just because an account is newly created does not make their first post FUD. Their story is precisely what happened to me, although for a slightly smaller amount of money.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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> Earlier today I decided to switch my Android for an iPhone. Mistake #1 : switching to an even more closed computing environment, where user has strictly no control > android Mistake #2 : running on a tech. stack you do not control: closed-source, walled-garden > wallet Mistake #3 : using a wallet instead of your own private cold storage to hold any kind of significant amounts of money > but its still up there, #1 s…

> Mistake #1 : switching to an even more closed computing environment, where user has strictly no control

I've been with Google Nexus and Pixels for many years, roughly starting with the Nexus One. Ironically, I switched from an iphone 3GS at the time that I owned for a few months.

After many years of being on windows, then linux, then Mac, then back to linux, now back to Mac with linux on ssh, my conclusion is that user control doesn't necessarily mean a better user experience. A closed computing environment allows for consistency and sturdiness. When you start looking at your phone as a device, rather than as a computer, it becomes obvious.

> Mistake #2 : running on a tech. stack you do not control: closed-source, walled-garden

I don't control android in any way. I could read its source code if I really, really wanted to but why would I? I want a product. A device. Would you read the source code of your washing machine? Dish washer? At some point you want to live your life and stop reading anything and everything as if you actually have enough time to tinker with all of it.

> Mistake #3 : using a wallet instead of your own private cold storage to hold any kind of significant amounts of money

Meh. 'Significant amounts of money' is subjective. Some would say the amount of money I lost would be a life changer, some would shrug it off as a yearly bonus on the lower end of the scale. Fact is, I had my bitcoin on some version of a pixel for roughly 7 years and never had a problem.

> Mistake #4 : trusting that Apple is making huge efforts to secure their environment.

They made a huge effort to secure their hardware; its some of the best in the world. The thing is they put a ton of focus on hardware security but hardly enough on software / service stuff. In this case, the app store search was compromised by some bots leaving reviews.

Your general theme seems to rely on having access to open source on all levels leads to more security.

This is patently false. For example, the vast majority of smartphones use baseband processors that are not just closed source with closed source drivers, but the ICs themselves are tightly guarded secrets by their manufacturer (probably Qualcomm). There are probably a dozen or so chips in every smartphone running all sorts of firmware you have no access to. Same goes for computers.

In fact, I would argue that Apple's model might be the most secure, because they do SoC, which requires they know far more about and have much more control over the inner workings of every sub component.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Tap “Get”.

You want me to install this app that took this dudes keys? No way lmao.

To be clear, it didn't take my keys. It generated a wallet to which I sent my bitcoin, which was then promptly sent somewhere else.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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> Google protects you from fraud and scam better than anyone I have to disagree. Czech Youtube is currently full of scam ads with photos (and sometimes even bad deepfakes) of Czech president and other public figures, supposedly endorsing some investment product that yields you like 50% profit. I keep reporting these, and I know some people who do too, but ~80% of those reports get handled as "we determined no violati…

How related is a youtube video in Czech showing up in your preferred videos with Apple store's first search being a scam

I was replying to the claim that Google is good at protecting from scams.

Also, it's not in my "preferred videos", they are paid ads, and they appear to many people, maybe it wasn't so clear from my comment

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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> my broker? CFD gambling app I don't think 'gambling app' is a fair description given it's a regulated security, any broker that truly offers CFD trading is (1) going to be legit; (2) going to be competing with the broker you were searching for for result space. Of course to serve its users any app store should massively prioritise the word/brand (incl. typos) you actually search for though.

https://www.fca.org.uk/publications/policy-statements/ps19-1... They're in the category that, while they theoretically can be used by skilled investors, anyone offering them to retail punters is up to no good. Because those punters are going to lose money to them hand over fist.

I'm not sure if you're writing from the UK or US, but while the latter has a more stringent 'Accredited Investor' qualification (skilled or wealthy, applied and granted) - and actually flat out doesn't allow CFDs anyway (options are much more common & are retail available) - in the UK this just amounts to a KYC type form where you tick that you understand the risks; they also have to tell you (I assume, because they all do) the percentage of customers that lose money trading them on that platform (typically ~75% from what I've seen).

But they're not 'up to no good', you may not like it, but this is allowed and fully above board. If you search 'HL' and get 'Trading212: shares & CFDs' that's a bad search result, but it's not a scam, they genuinely and legitimately offer that, and compete with HL (which doesn't offer CFDs except through some kind of tie-up with IG).

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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iOS exploits are worth the same as Android ones.

An iPhone user is typically from a rich country, like US or Japan, an Android user is typically from India or China. Here's 10x wealth difference. Add to this the fact the iPhone users are dumber and more prone to expoits, so of course hackers would rather focus on App Store.

Be that as it may, many security firms actually value Android zero-days above iOS ones: https://zerodium.com/program.html

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

#159
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