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Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by dang »

falsandtru wrote: post #30
mef wrote: post #23

Anyone know why this isn’t on the front page with 96 pts one hour after submission?

Hacker News is extremely strongly manipulated. What users see as popularity order is actually the order manipulated to the moderators' liking. https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#behavi... I believe this is a good technical article for HN concerning safety culture of engineers, but moderators didn't think so.

It's not a technical article. It's a lurid media topic* about a suspicious-looking alleged suicide with zero information for a substantive discussion, and tons of fuel for sinister speculation. That's not what HN is supposed to be for. However, we can give this one a pass because the ongoing Boeing saga is of interest and there's clearly a community appetite to discuss this development.

Edit: even though the thread is terrible, which is just what one would expect from a sensational topic with zero information for a substantive discussion.

* Edit 2: I changed the word 'story' to 'topic' because I don't mean to disparage the BBC article itself - anigbrowl's reply is right on that

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by anigbrowl »

robjan wrote: post #64
torstenvl wrote: post #4

"Self-inflicted wound"? Obviously the story is still developing but I'm immediately skeptical. EDIT: Also weird that BBC is already memory-holing that it was a gunshot wound. archive.is has the original. https://archive.is/wj0LE

In the UK press reporting standards discourage reporting suicide methods https://www.ipso.co.uk/editors-code-of-practice/

It'll take a while to see if it has made any difference, as this version of the code was only adopted in 2021. Suicide rates in the UK appear to be fairly static over the last 20 years: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-...

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by salawat »

tiahura wrote: post #25
esoterica wrote: post #19

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There are exceptions to your observation, see e.g. Ebay, but generally when people flake right before a depo it's because they have something to hide.

https://marketrealist.com/p/uber-greyball-explained/

Or project Greyball with Uber.

As a Quality Manager; this would be him going to Church and receiving absolution. They may have ripped him a new one at depo, but we're generally a bunch of stubborn mofos as a rule. This one strikes as smelling very, very, wrong. The company is certainly large enough where I could see somebody playing dirty. Especially since a conviction in the U.S. would be grounds for getting absolutely shredded in other jurisdictions.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by KerrAvon »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #69
falsandtru wrote: post #38

Is the political safety of the United States on the same level as that of Russia?

No, even if this were murder. If the people investigating Hunter Biden suddenly turned up dead, or the people investigating Trump, and if that happened over and over across several years, then I'd say yes. Oh, and if you could be arrested for a protest.

You can be arrested for a protest. You can also be shot and killed without consequences for protesting in some scenarios. Whether either of these survive a SCOTUS challenge, not sure, but in the meantime it sure fucking happens. We’re less free in 2024 than we were in 2001.

But at least you’re still right about the political assassinations, which is not yet a thing that happens here on an organized basis.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by anigbrowl »

dang wrote: post #151
falsandtru wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hacker News is extremely strongly manipulated. What users see as popularity order is actually the order manipulated to the moderators' liking. https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#behavi... I believe this is a good technical article for HN concerning safety culture of engineers, but moderators didn't think so.

It's not a technical article. It's a lurid media topic* about a suspicious-looking alleged suicide with zero information for a substantive discussion, and tons of fuel for sinister speculation. That's not what HN is supposed to be for. However, we can give this one a pass because the ongoing Boeing saga is of interest and there's clearly a community appetite to discuss this development. Edit: even though the thread i…

Flatly untrue. It's a soberly worded recitation of the available facts with multiple caveas; the frenzy of speculation stems from Boeing's increasingly tattered corporate reputation, not the story. This was written to far higher standards than (for example) a story from the Daily Mail or New York Post; I'm astonished that you would characterize this way.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by anomaly_ »

Dalewyn wrote: post #107
briantakita wrote: post #101

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>But a country like China would punish the corruption by Boeing management with death. That's a great incentive to not be corrupt. I've long since come to the conclusion that the reason today's politicians, executives, and others in position of power are so flagrantly corrupt is because they don't risk paying with their lives for their troubles anymore. The feudal age wasn't a great time to live in as a peasant, but…

If you come for the king, you'd best not miss.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by readthenotes1 »

jjk166 wrote: post #9
torstenvl wrote: post #4

"Self-inflicted wound"? Obviously the story is still developing but I'm immediately skeptical. EDIT: Also weird that BBC is already memory-holing that it was a gunshot wound. archive.is has the original. https://archive.is/wj0LE

Self inflicted wound in the middle of several days of scheduled depositions. Just about as suspicious as could be.

There is no handy 24-hour surveilled jail cell for him to be in

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Post by falsandtru »

falsandtru wrote: post #103

Hm, this thread once again slid down the top page at an alarming rate, even though the safety of the environment surrounding engineers is a serious concern of engineers. Hacker News is surprisingly dismissive of user interests and votes. Note that even if it is a suicide, it is still a safety problem of the environment surrounding engineers. Since it is Boeing that pressured him until he committed suicide.

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