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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by EntropicBrew »

pizzafeelsright wrote: post #139
EntropicBrew wrote: post #120

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This is fascinating. Even sillier example, https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=2019-01-31+to+2016-04-0... and https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=2019-01-30+to+2016-04-0... both show an identical duration of 2 years 9 months 26 days (edit: despite reporting 1032 and 1031 days respectively).

Counting months and days are two very different metrics. Months are lunar. Days are solar.

Depends on the calendar system, as far as this discussion goes, the Greogorian calendar system is solar even for months.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by nerpderp82 »

freedomben wrote: post #124
andrewstuart2 wrote: post #81

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They have a free trial as well. I didn't even finish half my 100 free search queries before I decided to pay.

In my case 100 was not enough. I almost didn't sign up for Kagi because I hadn't yet felt the value and configuring a browser to use Kagi as the default search engine isn't a zero effort task. It probably took me about 200 to 300 searches before I was firmly decided that paying for Kagi is worth it. If I hadn't been freshly mad about Google's declining search quality, and displeased with DDG for something they had re…

The latency of Kagi is so much better than Google or DDG. Just for the responsiveness and ball of "stuff" that Google tacks onto the front of search is an abomination. Worth if for the latency and the kruft ball removal alone.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by jjtheblunt »

dawnerd wrote: post #131
jjtheblunt wrote: post #89

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> got it wrong But your query was ambiguous as written. 8 hours and 32 minutes is how long it takes to go from 3:38 pm to 10 after midnight? Perhaps the am/pm thing is also underspecified, so it chooses the shorter time delta?

That makes sense, ideally it should come back saying it's unsure but here's the best guess. I like the way WA explains it directly. The problem with these quick answers is you still can't blindly trust them unless they show their work.

Exactly!

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by MattTheRealOne »

andai wrote: post #36

Did kagi recently (past 12 months) add the unlimited plan? Last time I checked even my human search usage was way beyond their limits (Google regularly accuses me of being a bot!), and my primary interest was in 100Xing that volume with autonomous agents. Now it says unlimited, but I'm not sure "you and a swarm of a thousand digital clones" counts as fair use...

They added the unlimited plan in September last year. Announcement: https://blog.kagi.com/unlimited-searches-for-10

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by omoikane »

I just tried all those demo queries in Google and it had similar output for all of them, except "MangoldtLambda[11]". Looks like that's a function specific to Wolfram.

Bing couldn't answer "MangoldtLambda[11]" either, and it also couldn't answer "differentiate x^2 with respect to x", and didn't show a graph for "norway gdp".

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by throwup238 »

andai wrote: post #142
golf_mike wrote: post #45

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yes https://kagi.com/settings?p=billing_plan

To rephrase my question, was the unlimited plan not available about a year ago? Otherwise I don't think I would have disqualified kagi at the time. I recall the volume being too low for my needs, even without hooking it up to any automated systems (which for me at least, was the whole point of looking into paid search engines).

Iirc it was available but more expensive as part of the Ultimate $25/mo plan.

They made the $10/mo plan unlimited in September 2023

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by [deleted] »

jerpint wrote: post #98
jxy wrote: post #76

> welcome Stephen Wolfram to Kagi’s board of advisors This is interesting. I guess we will soon read a longwinded post about it from the first person perspective.

A new kind of search engine

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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by paradox460 »

dvngnt_ wrote: post #59
xaro wrote: post #41

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I configured Reddit as a "Lense" (similar to what Kagi uses for things like searching across Forums, or news). With that, now I have a simple toggle at the top of Kagi which allows me to immediately turn a search into a Reddit search.

i just pinned reddit, wikipedia to top so my searches will usually display them first.

Thats the best way, because then what you're looking for gets surfaced rather organically, and its right there, so you don't have to go out of your way to find it.

Generally I've started using bangs and lenses for changing searches in a wholly categorical manner. I.e. the !i bang for image search.

I did change the !p bang from podcasts to activating the programming lens, because programming tends to have a lot of terms that overlap with more general language, and so sometimes its nice to swap in and out of that mode.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by pants2 »

dewbrite wrote: post #28

> To ensure result quality, we automatically downrank pages with advertising and tracking, which are often associated with low-quality or machine-generated content. That is one of the most compelling things I've ever heard about a search engine. How well does kagi work for niche "reddit queries" like "best waterproof midi synthesizers reddit"?

Kagi has a built in 'Forums' search that limits results to Reddit, HN, and other high-quality user discussions. It's probably my favorite feature.
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