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Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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> Around 10% of Gaza's journalists have been killed versus 2.5% of healthcare workers. One possible explanation is that journalists have a much higher probability of being close to where the fighting is, than healthcare workers.

Alternatively, you can watch this documentary where journalists wearing identifying gear away from the action were shot by a sniper during the peaceful "March of Return" (2018). These were the "Palestinian Gandhis" Israel supporters keep talking about. They were massacred. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZSaKYmP2s

> peaceful "March of Return"

How is trying to storm a sovereign border peaceful? Pretty sure if a mob stormed any normal government border they would be shot.

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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I appreciate that this is on here and I hope we can collectively handle it. Tech isn't isolated from this situation, as difficult as it is to admit and talk about with civility and care. A US military software engineer even self immolated recently in protest of what's happening. I don't see what's happening in Gaza as being culturally particular to the specific identity groups involved here. It's a very human situati…

Yeah, there's plenty of relevant tech angles, whether that's Israelis utilizing AI to pick targets while acknowledging they know exactly how many civilians they're going to kill in the process [1], Israeli spyware being used to hack people everywhere in the world, etc.

[1] https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-cal...

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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> Around 10% of Gaza's journalists have been killed versus 2.5% of healthcare workers. One possible explanation is that journalists have a much higher probability of being close to where the fighting is, than healthcare workers.

This explaination wouldn't explain why the figure is so much higher than when compared to other conflicts in the world.

many on this list have been shown to be hamas members, this is propaganda

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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Israel has ordered hospitals to evacuate, e.g.: https://healthpolicy-watch.news/who-calls-for-israel-to-resc... I think you're generally wrong on the "they have not been doing" comment. Israel has been giving warnings, and those warnings were intentionally being ignored to maximize the damage to Israel's reputation. But if you have some comprehensive data here I'd be interested in seeing it. From my observation the p…

I didn't say that Israel has never ordered an evacuation. I pushed back on the commenter who stated that finding a militant in a hospital or school makes it a valid target. > From my observation Well from Human Rights Watches observation: > Human Rights Watch has not been able to corroborate them, nor seen any information that would justify attacks on Gaza hospitals. When a journalist at a news conference showing vid…

You are aware of Human Rights Watch’s history with Israel, right? Here’s a taste:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2009/07/fu...

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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Suppose I am a country at war with the United States. Do I have the right to kill every American journalist? Also, it is not clear what "working in Hamas" means since they formed the government of the Gaza strip, so people "working in Hamas" would include all public officials, civil servants, etc. Does Israel have the right to kill all the sanitation workers of the Gaza strip since they also "work in Hamas"?

The journalists were recording things that would have hindered controlling the narrative.

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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I think it is something like "the wisdom of the crowd is the collective opinion of a diverse independent group of individuals rather than that of a single expert." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_the_crowd

That would apply if HN was not actively moderated...

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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Thank you for the definition. Isn’t this precisely what’s happening in Gaza? Even the ICJ ordered Israel to take steps to prevent any acts of genocide in Gaza. Do they also don’t know the definition of the word?

The court did not say that Israel is committing genocide. It didn't even require a ceasefire. Do you not know what "preventing" or "committing" mean either?

Why do you think it asked Israel to prevent acts of Genocide instead of asking both sides of preventing acts of Genocide?

Do you believe that if there’s no suspicion that acts of Genocide are being committed by the IDF the court could have emitted such ruling?

I’m not trying to fight in here. You don’t need to be condescending this is not reddit my friend.

Re: Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza war

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Genocide:The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group. Explain how the country that does roof-knocks[1], phone calls[2], and has literally driven its own people out of Gaza[3] in an attempt for peace is attempting to exterminate Palestinians. Learn what words mean before using them. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roof_knocking [2] https://…

You’re being unfairly downvoted. The word genocide has been overused in this conflict. Genocide means an intent to erase a people, which is a hard point to argue when Gaza’s population has doubled in the last two decades under this supposed “erasure”.

Regardless of definition of genocide, how population growth in Gaza in the past is related to systematic murdering of civilians we observe now?
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