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Re: Google cut a deal with Reddit for AI training data

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Post by 23B1 » Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 2:13 PM UTC

Alupis wrote: post #142

23B1 wrote: post #131

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I was enriching them by agreeing to view ads – not granting unlimited and perpetual use of my intellectual labor. One is a fair exchange of value, the other is highly exploitative.

Reddit sells ads first-party. They have their own Advertising Account Team, Advertising Platform and more. The only reason Reddit is interesting to advertisers is the community. You can select specific subs to advertise to, interest groups, demographics, etc. You can get "laser" focused on who you advertise to, and offer compelling adverts to people highly likely to engage with your products/brands and convert into s…

I'm fine with that. That's a fair exchange of value.

I'm not fine with them using that intellectual labor for any purpose whatsoever, indefinitely, forever. The only way to win at this point will be not to play; the downstream consequences will be the death of the open internet.

Re: Google cut a deal with Reddit for AI training data

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Post by zare_st » Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 8:08 PM UTC

mvdtnz wrote: post #123

zare_st wrote: post #108

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Not only that, reddit hive mind is plain wrong in most of the cases. Plus in number of occasions the "le reddit investigation", "we did it reddit" excrement caused real-world issues for people that they were targeting, and those people were innocent. Reddit is ok and quite cool for targeted discussion on targeted sub-reddits. But all the general subreddits visited by general population and everything that pops once i…

Try saying anywhere on Reddit "WD-40 is a lubricant" and be prepared to face a tsunami of incorrect information. Or say anything about glyphosate.

I don't know what's their deal with glyphosate but I'm pretty confident that avg Redditor never held a can of WD in their life.

Re: Google cut a deal with Reddit for AI training data

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Post by AlexeyBelov » Sat, Feb 24, 2024, 5:54 AM UTC

zare_st wrote: post #152

mvdtnz wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try saying anywhere on Reddit "WD-40 is a lubricant" and be prepared to face a tsunami of incorrect information. Or say anything about glyphosate.

I don't know what's their deal with glyphosate but I'm pretty confident that avg Redditor never held a can of WD in their life.

And neither did an average person. Why is it worth pointing out?

Re: Google cut a deal with Reddit for AI training data

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Post by zare_st » Sat, Feb 24, 2024, 3:48 PM UTC

AlexeyBelov wrote: post #153

zare_st wrote: post #152

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I don't know what's their deal with glyphosate but I'm pretty confident that avg Redditor never held a can of WD in their life.

And neither did an average person. Why is it worth pointing out?

Average person doesn't have strong opinion about some bit of data irrelevant to their life.

If there is a thing, and topic about it has reached the internet discussions, the participants will have an opinion regardless of their actual practical knowhow about the thing. They'll form their opinion otherways. Platforms like Reddit favour a master opinion due to score and moderation system, so one out of N wrong theories will surface as the master opinion.

In real life, if you ask bunch of random people about the thing they don't know, you get wildly different answers, and largely no-one will back up anyone there. Certainly not in enough force to push a confidently wrong answer up as the "people's opinion"