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Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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I bought a couple Unicomp keyboards in late 2011, I don't even remember the model name, something like SpaceSaver. I'm currently typing this comment on one of them and the other one is in another home.

I love the clickiness, the heft, the fact that it's built like a tank. I am not a big fan of the PS/2 (2011 me worried about USB rollover and didn't expect PS/2 to die out) and my coworkers weren't big fans of the clickiness at all, but it's one of my favorite possessions.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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This is quite cool, but I really don't understand some people's affinity toward buckling spring switches, they're loud and odd feeling, not nearly as consistent as anything cherry or their alternatives are offering.

I remember using these in the 90s and my hands would feel numb after an hour. No issues using modern keyboards, but the constant boing from typing is still firmly stuck in my head.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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Love the New Model M keyboard. I have one for my personal setup and one for my work setup. Recent batches also use Rpi Picos now which let you flash custom firmware. https://github.com/purdeaandrei/vial-qmk-overnumpad-and-aris... In theory, they're probably "worse" than a brand new IBM made Model M was but I think people overestimate the feel of extant Model Ms that have been around for 30, 40 years now. I also found…

Thanks, I had no idea these were running a Pico, yay QMK

The new "New" Model M Keyboard does afaik. My ten-key-less (space saver) (anno 2019 or so) has an older MCU which apparently doesn't get the USB protocol quite right. Every now and then (perhaps once a week) the keyboard isn't recognized at boot (currently Windows 10, but it's the same in Linux). I have it connected to a switchable USB hub, so that's not a big deal. More annoying is, that rarely (about once a month) the 'Q' key is dead (real fun when a password contains it). Most annoying is that the 'T' key tends to bounce (that developed only after two or three years of use, so probably not firmware related). Overall, I'm still satisfied, but can't wholeheartedly recommend it.

Unicomp offers (or offered?) to repair those older "New" Model M (replace the MCU), but I moved internationally meanwhile, so this probably not an option anymore. I wished, they would offer the MCU daughterboard separately, so that I could install it myself.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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Unicomp's customer service was absolutely terrible when I bought from them. I ordered a black keyboard. They spent ages doing nothing. When I complained, they finally shipped me... a beige keyboard.

When I notified them, the rep said (and I quote), "I don't really see the problem... can't you use it as is?"

He refused to replace it, and reluctantly refunded me the purchase price (but not the extremely expensive postage). So if I wanted to get what I actually ordered, I'd have had to start the whole tortuous process from scratch, and still be out of pocket.

The whole experience was ridiculous.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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have they solved the power-on draw problems? that was the thing that finally soured me on them... my dell optiplex at work couldn't reliably handle the power surge especially during soft reboots and had a tendency to hang the whole system. worked fine when I was mostly in the office (and when I had coworkers who could reboot it for me if needed) but once we went WFH I had to have them unplug it until I eventually got…

Never noticed a power-draw problem. Given that even old USB is mandated to supply at least 500mA and that there's little more than a MCU inside the keyboard, I find it hard to believe that power (or even just in-rush current) could be the problem.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember stacks of Model M's at radio rallies and other flea-market-type places. You couldn't give them away. If only I'd known...

I paid about 1 euro for one at a computer fair over 20 years ago. It still works ;)

One Model M is otherwise known as a "lifetime supply".

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember stacks of Model M's at radio rallies and other flea-market-type places. You couldn't give them away. If only I'd known...

Yeah, I dumpster-dived a couple (original IBM Model M's), years ago, from the same PC shops that were throwing out working Pentium III / 4 systems. Totally great condition and still working problem-free today! I did have to purchase a couple keycaps on ebay as they were lost when thrown out into the dumpster (knocked off due to hitting other stuff), but really a minor issue!

Yup. I have 5 or 6 of them, all rescued from being thrown out.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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Huh. Neat, I guess. I was lucky enough to get an original IBM Model M keyboard from a friend when the lab he was at was clearing out their old equipment. Plugged it in a few years back through a USB-to-PS/2 adapter when my basic Logitech keyboard crapped out for no reason. Mapped CapsLock to the "Win" (Super) key, and... ...still using it, without feeling that anything's missing. Some things have reached their peak f…

Exactly so.

I remap CapsLock to Super, and still use Model Ms today, via generic cheapo PS/2-to-USB convertors. (Any convertor with an LED on it should work, or that has 2 inputs; that means it's an active device.)

I tried an original Unicomp and it wasn't the same. Not even close to as nice to use. I doubt the "new" one is fully up to spec either.

I have been typing on these things for about 35 years now, and no RSI so far. Perhaps because they give my hand and arm muscles and tendons a good workout every day...?

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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I used one for years and liked it, but, after switching to an ergonomic keyboard, I wouldn't want to primarily move back to a standard one.

Which ergonomic model did you choose?

I am using https://www.zsa.io/moonlander/ and loving it.

Re: Unicomp's "New" Model M Keyboard

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I grew up a half mile away from a major IBM office. My friends and I would sneak through the woods and go dumpster diving. We would routinely get 3-4 new in box keyboards, plenty of floppies, even real fancy chairs!

This sounds like the setup to a Stephen King novel about malevolent office supplies.

More like a horror story for those poor security guard that wanted to watch tv instead of follow us around in their cars!
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