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Prime Video cuts Dolby Vision, Atmos support from ad tier–and didn't tell subs

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Re: Prime Video cuts Dolby Vision, Atmos support from ad tier–and didn't tell subs

#151

I cancelled due to ads a few weeks ago after 10+ years of Prime. I was also sick of yelling at Alexa who pretends not to understand me. Streaming has lost its appeal to me compared to owning the discs. eBay is especially affordable now with so many Goodwill sellers offering used blu-rays.

Wait, if you drop prime you can't use Alexa any more?

Re: Prime Video cuts Dolby Vision, Atmos support from ad tier–and didn't tell subs

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post #111

What would it take to have an open alternative to the various license-required Dolby formats? Are there any initiatives already underway? Is it just algorithms and software or do they also make codec chips or some other kind of required hardware?

I don't think the Dolby licenses were the cause here, but rather as all other comments underline, new segmentation.

Re: Prime Video cuts Dolby Vision, Atmos support from ad tier–and didn't tell subs

#153
post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the content and licensing costs are the majority of their costs? Honestly asking, I never assumed infrastructure and bandwidth might be the majority

It depends on the service. For Disney and Paramount+ they already own the IP and the costs then would be storage + bandwidth + metadata/transcoding servers + engineer time. Of those, the bulk would be bandwidth. Similar for content that’s owned by the platform. Netflix, Apple, and others invested in to original programming and in those cases there’s again no need to license.

However the prices of all those are similar. By this interpretation, either Disney does a very bad and expensive engineering job, or Netflix is losing big money. And I don't think either is the case... so there must be something else (and I can't tell what).

Re: Prime Video cuts Dolby Vision, Atmos support from ad tier–and didn't tell subs

#154
post #73

The fifth paragraph goes directly to Qui Bono: It costs them licencing fees to people like Dolby Laboratories. So, it's the kind of choice which drives directly to outflows of revenue. They made a bet less people will cancel, than the net outflow of licences, and those who pay $2.99 are on their way to being made to pay more rather than meeting the licence-tax.

Prime Video is in that weird spot where most people have low expectations and don't feel like they paid for it. There were already pre-roll ads (for other prime shows) under some conditions, so people who stuck through them will probably also stick through the new sponsored ads I guess. I think this will be the straw in the camel's back for only a small slice of their members, especially as Netflix is also enshittify…

Prime Video is for me the worst compared to the other streaming services I use (Netflix, Disney, HBO). Why? Here in Switzerland they skimp on languages, which means half the catalogue is in only one language and most irritating, not even in the original one - imagine Hollywood movies only available dubbed in German, or Korean dramas only in French (with bad syncing). And the same with subtitles, sometimes there's none, sometimes they pick some random language as sole available... it's a dumpster fire.

Re: Prime Video cuts Dolby Vision, Atmos support from ad tier–and didn't tell subs

#155

It looks like these streaming services have been hemorrhaging cash for years now and they just can't hide it any more. They're going to have to take drastic steps to try to become profitable - remains to be seen whether customers will bite. OTOH, we don't have the infrastructure to go back to the days of DVD rentals.

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Re: Prime Video cuts Dolby Vision, Atmos support from ad tier–and didn't tell subs

#156

I salute with happiness everything that is disliked by people, multimedia is a waste of time, free shipping is shallow consumerism, well done amazon!

My feeling is that the impact of this on media consumption is zero. Even the Amazon offering won't get impacted. Which is what Amazon guesses too, that's why they are doing it.

Re: Prime Video cuts Dolby Vision, Atmos support from ad tier–and didn't tell subs

#157
post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That the maintenance of the rule of law requires One True Man to stand outside the law and protect us through extrajudicial killing and torture. It is a statement on the core concept of law and justice.

Ok, and what are the politics of that statement, if any?

You seem to have some definition of politics that differs from the one I use. Politics is discourse and debate about the form of government and the exercise of power. As such, the political statement of "Reacher" or "24" is exactly what I described above: the implication that it is necessary to have someone who breaks all the laws, in order to maintain the system of laws.

Note that in the past we have had pop culture artifacts that argue the opposite, that stand for the triumph of the rule of law over individuals who arrogate extrajudicial powers to themselves. "A Few Good Men" was such a statement.

Re: Prime Video cuts Dolby Vision, Atmos support from ad tier–and didn't tell subs

#158
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See also every television/cable network ever. Every season a few shows would rise to the top and a few would get put out of the misery, you just move on and hope the good bets make more money than the bad bets burn.

I don't get why this would be an issue for Prime. They don't have to fill up a schedule so they can sell ad slots. They can make as little or as much content as they want. They don't need to make a "Veronica's Closet" to cram in between "Seinfeld" and "ER".

Because you still can't know how a show will turn out when you buy it.

You are often buying a show based on some scripts or based on a pilot. Pilots are, generally, not a good representation of what a show can be. Often they can be weak because the actors and writers still haven't found character voice etc.

With rings of power they bought some licenses for an IP THEN made a show... at that point you have a significant sunk cost and there is pressure to get SOMETHING made.

Maybe some of the actors are weak on the show, maybe the show just looks bad once you get it, maybe qualitywise it's fine but it just doesn't click with audiences.

Re: Prime Video cuts Dolby Vision, Atmos support from ad tier–and didn't tell subs

#159
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also 'The Boys' is quite popular, 'Bosch' and 'Reacher' are very popular.. there are a few others that do well. If you are old enough think back to the haydays of the network television evening programming. There were hits, there were misses, there was tons of stuff in between. For every 'Friends' there is a 'Two Guys a Girl and a Pizza Place'.

2GGPP launched Ryan Reynolds and Nathan Fillian and Susan Cryer from Silicon Valley. It’s a bit of a gem in its own way

... but it didn't do well overall.

Re: Prime Video cuts Dolby Vision, Atmos support from ad tier–and didn't tell subs

#160
post #34

I cancelled my Prime within 24hrs of them adding the ads to the base tier. Just isn't worth it anymore.

I only have prime for the actual amazon purchases and don't really use prime much except for the boys and invincible from to time to time. But even with that, this move makes me consider cancelling just to spite them.

I cancelled my whole Prime subscription. The few things I’ve ordered since then have been delivered in 2 days with free shipping, so I’m still not sure what I was paying for before.
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