Offt, not a good look for Railway, Render or Vercel!
They all need to make margins on top of aws/gcp expenses. Its just a knock on effect from such expensive public cloud egress.
Cloud Egress Costs
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#153The cost of egress traffic is a very good reason for many organizations to not fully migrate to a cloud provider anytime soon. And since, unlike with storage costs, there doesn't seem to be an actual reason (other than: it makes migrating to competitors cost-prohibitive in a subset of cases), that seems kind of... weird? Small example: an actual company I do some work for is in the business of delivering creative ass…
Not every cloud provider has egress charges…
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#154I'm curious what people would estimate is an actual reasonable cost for egress? As in, what it costs to provide that service plus a sensible margin? It seems to me that eventually it will come to pass that competition regulators start to look at this. For now there's enough of an appearance of healthy competition that they probably aren't interested. But below the surface what they should be understanding is that the…
https://blog.cloudflare.com/aws-egregious-egress This should give you an idea.
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I’ve had people refuse to believe that bandwidth is actually very cheap and cloud markup is insane (hundreds or even thousands of times cost). I show them bare metal providers and colo that bills by size of pipe rather than transfer. They refuse to believe it or assume there must be a catch. There usually isn’t, though sometimes the very cheapest skimp on things like rich peering and can be slightly slower or less re…
Equinix bare metal bandwidth is pretty crazy expensive too. 5c/GB is less than the 9c that Amazon charges, but still, ouch.
You pay equinix for the space.
You pay hurricane for the bandwidth.
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Amazing: Cloudflare -- Free for most services OVH Cloud -- Free and unlimited Scaleway -- Free for most services Great: Hetzner 20-60 TB / mo per instance $1.08 Not bad: Linode 1-20 TB / mo per instance $5.00 Oracle Cloud 10 TB / mo $8.50 A bit much: Backblaze 3x the amount of data stored $10.00 Bunny CDN -- $10.00 DigitalOcean 100 GB - 10 TB / mo per instance $10.00 UpCloud 500 GB - 24 TB / mo per instance $10.77 Vu…
Aws transfer costs seems off by a factor of ten sticker price is $0.09-0.14 per gb depending on region how did you get 100gb for 98$?
If I'm not mistaken, this is copied from the OP, which is pointing out that you get 100GB/mo free (that's the "100GB/mo" part). The $92.16 cost is for 1TB of egress. It's clearer in the original article.
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#157The cost of egress traffic is a very good reason for many organizations to not fully migrate to a cloud provider anytime soon. And since, unlike with storage costs, there doesn't seem to be an actual reason (other than: it makes migrating to competitors cost-prohibitive in a subset of cases), that seems kind of... weird? Small example: an actual company I do some work for is in the business of delivering creative ass…
If you still want to use some AWS services, you can get an AWS Direct Connect fiber cross connect from your data center rack to AWS, just like you do with your Internet connections. They operate Direct Connect in lots of third party carrier-neutral data centers. AWS egress over Direct Connect is $0.02/GB instead of $0.09/GB over the public Internet. You can serve customers through your unmetered Internet connections…
i'm a customer of the GCP equivalent: partner interconnect. our DC is in an equinix facility, they wire up drops for us that layer 3 straight into GCP. unmetered 1Gbps for about 250 bucks a month per (paid to EQX not GCP). are AWS really charging you per Gb for data egress from AWS into your own DC over an AWS direct connect??
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you still want to use some AWS services, you can get an AWS Direct Connect fiber cross connect from your data center rack to AWS, just like you do with your Internet connections. They operate Direct Connect in lots of third party carrier-neutral data centers. AWS egress over Direct Connect is $0.02/GB instead of $0.09/GB over the public Internet. You can serve customers through your unmetered Internet connections…
i'm a customer of the GCP equivalent: partner interconnect. our DC is in an equinix facility, they wire up drops for us that layer 3 straight into GCP. unmetered 1Gbps for about 250 bucks a month per (paid to EQX not GCP). are AWS really charging you per Gb for data egress from AWS into your own DC over an AWS direct connect??
I'm not familiar with GCP but this page below seems basically identical to AWS Direct Connect's pricing structure, including $0.02/GB for egress. Are you sure nobody is paying egress on your behalf?
https://cloud.google.com/network-connectivity/docs/interconn...
Ctrl+F "Data transfer from a VPC network through a Cloud Interconnect connection"
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Explain that. Google egress is expensive because it is capable. You could operate a product like Zoom from it.
This is similar, with different tradeoffs, to what Riot did for their gaming backbone. They wrote a blog about this but I cant't find it. Instead of relying on consumer ISP's to route gaming packets for speed, they would instead route them for costs. Taking extra hops and extra latency before reaching the target server. Riot built an overlay network using their own fiber and negotiated BGP deals with consumer ISP's t…
this might be it? https://qz.com/790208/how-the-company-behind-league-of-legen...
also, linked from that: https://technology.riotgames.com/news/fixing-internet-real-t...
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#160The cost of egress traffic is a very good reason for many organizations to not fully migrate to a cloud provider anytime soon. And since, unlike with storage costs, there doesn't seem to be an actual reason (other than: it makes migrating to competitors cost-prohibitive in a subset of cases), that seems kind of... weird? Small example: an actual company I do some work for is in the business of delivering creative ass…
Our 20tb/m costs us $414... if you're saying that you can amortize those servers, rent the space and pay for upkeep for less than $4k a month?
We have another service that has 20x the bandwidth, but it's a legacy GAE that has super cheap premium egress... But I'm told that AWS says that their pre-pay discount will be competitive in about a year, the rate that we're growing.
The negotiated egress prices are much lower, so long as you are buying future egress. If they're not worried about you jumping ship (you use a lot of their aws-native services), you can get a great deal.