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Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by Moldoteck »

serf wrote: post #54
quic5 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At its core, Juno uses the YouTube website itself. No, not scraped. It presents the website as you would load it, but similar to how browser extensions work, it tweaks the theming of the site through CSS and JavaScript.

I don't know why it matters much, there is a near limitless plethora of tools one can use to do agent profiling, meaning that if Google cared enough they could still engage in hostile behavior to break the product in various ways.

they could, but on the other hand there are a lot of apps like vanced/newpipe that still exist, so... Not just that, if under the hood the dev is using webkit+some extension-like blocking, it'll again be pretty hard to block and I'm not sure google is willing to invest effort/money in investigating this, esp considering that afaik juno doesn't even block ads

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by yard2010 »

qt31415926 wrote: post #40
shiroiuma wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need third-party APIs to make a YouTube viewer. There's a bunch of 3rd-party YouTube viewers like SmartTube, ReVanced, etc. that bypass ads and don't use the official API, plus of course the yt-dlp downloader. I'd say the lesson here is NOT to rely on official APIs. However, upon reading this blog post, it does seem he's using the official API so I guess he thinks he'll be fine as long as he doesn't block a…

A lot of the internet would break if YouTube removed/tweaked their embedded video player so I doubt he has to worry.

Keep in mind that this didn't prevent Facebook and Twitter doing the same, Google is just behind with these patterns, just like with everything else

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by spiderfarmer »

graphe wrote: post #141
KhalPanda wrote: post #130

I think $5 is _beyond_ fair, considering every user will have dropped >$3k on hardware.

With that logic every app that is free on an iPhone pro max must be unfair.

If you think that for every fact in life, the inverse is also true, then you're bad at logic.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by yard2010 »

withinboredom wrote: post #60
Hamuko wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if/when YouTube cuts it off (can they really?) It's called "Juno for YouTube" so they could definitely send a cease and desist for the YouTube trademark.

It uses the magic word: “for” They’ll probably still send a C&D but it will be defensible.

But.. aren't most of the c&d defensible? It's like a mafia scare tactic to dominate something - sometimes just the "or else" destroys ppl lives

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by KhalPanda »

graphe wrote: post #141
KhalPanda wrote: post #130

I think $5 is _beyond_ fair, considering every user will have dropped >$3k on hardware.

With that logic every app that is free on an iPhone pro max must be unfair.

For apps that run exclusively on brand new iPhone pro max's, sure.

...but seeing as that isn't the case.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by agos »

serf wrote: post #54
quic5 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At its core, Juno uses the YouTube website itself. No, not scraped. It presents the website as you would load it, but similar to how browser extensions work, it tweaks the theming of the site through CSS and JavaScript.

I don't know why it matters much, there is a near limitless plethora of tools one can use to do agent profiling, meaning that if Google cared enough they could still engage in hostile behavior to break the product in various ways.

they can probably go at it with just lawyers

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by rixrax »

I can't even begin to describe how excited I am about the Vision Pro and how much I want it to be everything it claims to be! Are there any info available from people who have received their headsets that are 'standard' production versions, and not Apple supplied early access versions? I want to hit that order button, but the rational me tells me to wait for some initial real life reviews to roll in.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Post by newaccount74 »

tobiasbischoff wrote: post #72

Is there already a word for this fetish of putting your fate in the hands of big companies not shutting you down from their APIs?

I assume that Christian Selig made enough money with Apollo before it was shut down to make it a worthwhile business, even if it was not forever. He seems to be doing just fine despite a big company shutting him down.
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