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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by amatecha »

hexage1814 wrote: post #128

I wonder if Youtube will ever do the same with Invidious by requiring an account for people to view videos. Sure, it might seen unthinkable for this to happen in 2024, but give it more 5 or 10 years and I could see this being something acceptable to the eyes of the average user. I don't like the direction the internet is going :\

Oh yeah, I see it as inevitable. I'm blown away that YouTube is still accessible without an account. It's only a matter of time, though, I'd wager. I never thought Twitter would require an account to view its content.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by kopirgan »

Sad. Used to browse since it was so nice and easy. Strangely they didn't accept one off donations only monthly. Musk has dismantled left control over Twitter but this is a side effect.

Uninstalled Reddit app it was battery draining plus slow.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by amatecha »

qaziquza wrote: post #145
hexage1814 wrote: post #128

I wonder if Youtube will ever do the same with Invidious by requiring an account for people to view videos. Sure, it might seen unthinkable for this to happen in 2024, but give it more 5 or 10 years and I could see this being something acceptable to the eyes of the average user. I don't like the direction the internet is going :\

The point being: archive with yt-dlp while we still can.

Yes, assume every video you watch and like is going to get deleted in a week or month or year, or whatever. We don't know the timeline but it's really not a question of "if", just when.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

nomilk wrote: post #136
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's created a reverse eternal September. The masses stay confined to one place. Other places can flourish with the old school smaller community kind of feel and quality. Let twitter live in its current state if it means other places won't be taken over by influencers and other bullshit.

This is nice in theory. I haven't used any twitter alternatives but others seem to report that their content is more or less the same as twitter's.

We're all sharing the same links, articles, jokes, memes, ideas, cat pictures. What differentiates a place is its sense of community, not its content. It's easy to forget that because Twitter long ago stopped being a community.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by amatecha »

pard68 wrote: post #8

This is just an instance shutting down, not all of the Nitter instances. Sort of a deceptive title.

I shouldn't have to paste this here, but: "If nothing changes, all remaining instances will go down eventually: Instances rely on guest accounts, which are valid for a certain time and of which you need a ton to run a public instance. The API for this got taken down and it doesn't look like a fluke this time."

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by Acrobatic_Road »

nomilk wrote: post #131
ryandrake wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Twitter is/was not a utility, not a “modern post office” not a “town square” (before someone tries to bring up that terrible analogy too) and really doesn’t deserve people’s grief. It’s yet another corporate-owned and controlled messaging app and we are seeing the inevitable result of that control.

> Twitter is/was not a utility I've found no substitute for getting breaking news on a specific topic (e.g. natural disasters, war, politics, sport). Google News is second best, but the sites it indexes are at the absolute least 20 minutes behind twitter. Zite was my favourite app from many, many years ago. But it was good at collating daily reading, not for up to the minute/second curation. For certain topics that a…

Twitter was really good for some things. For example, there was a thread yesterday contrasting public data on fertility rates with the latest official data as collected by Twitter users. In short, the UN, Macrotrends and CIA World Factbook are publishing data that is extremely inaccurate. For example, Macrotrends reports that China's TFR was 1.7 in 2023, when the official data says it was 1.09. Accounts like @morebirths and @birthgauge even report estimated fertility based on monthly data so following those accounts is like having a time machine.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by serf »

idontpost wrote: post #137
ryandrake wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Twitter is/was not a utility, not a “modern post office” not a “town square” (before someone tries to bring up that terrible analogy too) and really doesn’t deserve people’s grief. It’s yet another corporate-owned and controlled messaging app and we are seeing the inevitable result of that control.

> But Twitter is/was not a utility The way twitter was used by local governments during emergencies absolutely made it equivalent to one. Fortunately at least my area has moved away from twitter and towards SMS based notifications for that purpose.

>The way twitter was used by local governments during emergencies absolutely made it equivalent to one.

those governments should be held responsible rather than giving Twitter a free ticket to calling itself a utility.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by jjackson5324 »

cgh wrote: post #121
jjackson5324 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting because the content I get on X is far, far more valuable than HN + Reddit + Facebook combined. It’s the only place you can follow subject matter experts and get their real time thoughts. I think people on HN just don’t know how to use Twitter? If you want to use it effectively, you have to utilize lists. Curate your own lists or find someone you respect and follow their lists. If someone is posting things…

Nearly every subject matter expert I followed has left. Scientists, mathematicians, journalists, authors, comic book people, and so on. What I now see are people with demented political opinions about women and American politics. It sucks.

> Scientists, mathematicians, journalists, authors, comic book people, and so on.

Intersting, I haven't had a single person leave. People make a big fuss about leaving, but the traffic you get from Twitter is too attractive to leave.

> What I now see are people with demented political opinions about women and American politics. It sucks.

As I said, that's because you're not using lists. It's literally impossible to see posts from accounts you don't like if you're using lists.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by jjackson5324 »

cruano wrote: post #113
jjackson5324 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

"Yeah, the best content is on twitter, you have everything from links to Medium to links to personal websites, sometimes there's even screenshots of them!"

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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by SushiHippie »

_ache_ wrote: post #60
sphars wrote: post #35

Has there been any guides about self-hosting Nitter and using your own personal account, rather than trying to generate a bunch of guest accounts? I ask because while I no longer use Twitter, I have been using the RSS feature from Nitter to follow a few accounts that aren't available elsewhere. So if there's any way to keep doing that, I'd appreciate it if anyone has a solution. And I really don't want to login to Tw…

Yeap, the Installion section of the Github Readme.md of Nitter. Docker based. https://github.com/zedeus/nitter#Installation

They asked about using their personal account. The README does not mention this. And without a personal account, you won't have any luck with self-hosting this, as guest accounts don't work anymore.
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