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Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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Post by generalizations »

somenameforme wrote: post #150
wharvle wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mars' famous dust storms aren't so good at causing damage, because the air's really, really thin, so they can't pick up heavy particles even with high wind speeds. A serious problem if you need to keep grit out of fine machinery or electronics, not so much if you're worried about erosion (I mean, yeah, eventually it'd be a problem, but it's slow-motion compared to the erosion of something exposed to sand storms on Ea…

As a fun anecdote this is one of the very few things that was completely faked in "The Martian" - book and movie alike, which is otherwise a hard sci-fi book. I think it's quite telling when your instigator for a disaster scenario on Mars has to be faked! Well at least intentionally faked. It turns out Martian regolith/soil is also much more moist than expected so getting water will be relatively easy, but at the tim…

To be fair, it wasn't even the only disaster scenario in the movie - but it's very difficult to come up with a realistic scenario where someone would get left behind with a livable hab.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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Post by skykooler »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #35
purpleblue wrote: post #7

Can they just do one more #YOLO flight at a high speed and high altitude as possible and see what happens? Seems more useful and fun than just leaving it to rot.

> more useful and fun than just leaving it to rot Ginny has an independent solar panel/battery set-up. Perhaps it could be rigged as a lone stationary sensor?

It can't communicate over long distances, so it wouldn't be able to communicate with Earth after Perseverance drives out of range.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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Post by adastra22 »

lukan wrote: post #130
smcin wrote: post #117

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But technically Russia might not have owned title to it in the first place. Sounds almost like an NFT before NFTs existed: -- Space lawyer, Joanne Irene Gabrynowicz (University of Mississippi) said: without reading the papers or knowing how they were processed and by whom, she can't speak to the validity of the ownership of a space object purchased at auction. "However, a contention that buying a space object that la…

Yeah, but the rover itself was in possesion of russia and is now in posession of Garriot. That is undisputed. What is rightfully disputed, is whether he also owns the land under the rover. He would like to, but not possible with current laws.

> What is rightfully disputed, is whether he also owns the land under the rover. He would like to, but not possible with current laws.

Actually, contrary to the opinion of Ms. Gabrynowicz, current case law and government/agency positions represented by the Artemis Accords reflect Mr. Garriot's claim. It may have been an untested hypothetical at the time, but in the current political climate it is finding support by all the relevant players. In fact they go even further in asserting exclusions zones much larger than just the regolith undermining a lander or rover.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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Post by toomuchtodo »

BuildTheRobots wrote: post #133
timschmidt wrote: post #83

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You mean that place that smells of burnt metal and is full of hard radiation? Surface of Mars is definitely more hospitable.

> Overall, astronauts often compare the smell of space to "hot metal, burnt meat, burnt cakes, spent gunpowder and welding of metal," according to Steve Pearce, a biochemist and CEO of Omega Ingredients, who combed through astronaut interviews to help him craft a NASA-commissioned scent: https://www.livescience.com/space/what-does-space-smell-like Guess I'm one of today's 10,000.

They made a perfume of it.

https://eaudespace.com/

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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Post by ugh123 »

synapsomorphy wrote: post #44
contact9879 wrote: post #37

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Isn't Mars Sample Return pretty much dead at this point?

I contributed to the helicopter design for it so I'm biased but I think it'll happen eventually even if the funding isn't approved this administration/year/decade. The already-stashed samples will be up there basically forever, and we'll probably want samples from a few different areas anyways, so it makes sense to go grab them.

I hope the development of the MAV will bring us closer to building launch vehicles capable of getting humans off Mars. Seems like the MAV is preloaded with fuel and pretty small but should provide some good data for future missions.

https://mars.nasa.gov/msr/#Ascent-Vehicle

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Post by knowaveragejoe »

datameta wrote: post #110
rubinlinux wrote: post #101

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It is a very common theme in Elite Dangerous, to the point that the station controller will sometimes say "Oh seven, commander" to you.

Also ubiquitous in Eve Online since about 15 years ago. Did it originate in Elite Dangerous?

This is where I was first exposed to it. I'm not surprised it's got a longer history than that, though.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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Post by rockemsockem »

contact9879 wrote: post #37
synapsomorphy wrote: post #19

I just interned at the NASA office (at Ames) that designed large chunks of and did a lot of flight planning / analysis for Ingenuity. It had some really awesome people behind it and its success inspired a number of new Mars rotorcraft missions (rotorcraft will be an integral part of Mars Sample Return). Flight is going to be a huge part of future solar system exploration efforts and Ingenuity paved the way. o7

Isn't Mars Sample Return pretty much dead at this point?

Why do you say that?
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