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Post by GeneralMaximus »

jwells89 wrote: post #114
lobsterthief wrote: post #101

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I love using it as a second screen when I’m out at a coffee shop. It works so seamlessly and I can throw Slack on there while I code, without looking like a complete weirdo

Sidecar works surprisingly well. With its latency and performance it’s barely distinguishable from a wired screen even running a HiDPI resolution.

If you want, it's possible to wire it up too! I use the included USB-C cable to connect it directly to my MacBook. It's much more reliable that way, especially if you're on a flaky WiFi connection.

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Post by bombcar »

giarc wrote: post #126

I suspect they will sell a ton. For the most part, people scoffed at inflation and just kept spending. Unemployment is still super low and wages are rising. Reports seem to indicate people still have money saved from the pandemic (eg. travel is still super high) so I think people won't hesitate to spend $3500 on what could be a ground breaking piece of equipment (even if you don't think it is now).

They’ll sell every single one they make for awhile. The question is the longevity - but if it works and they don’t drop support it’ll slowly catch on as they drop price.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by longtimelistnr »

ghaff wrote: post #97
frou_dh wrote: post #65

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To a first approximation, that's what it still is all these years later. The software might be called iPadOS now but it's not fooling anyone that it's much different to iOS.

There are some specific use cases like creating digital artwork and certain gaming/video where the difference between an iPhone and and an iPad really is arguably a difference in kind. But, yeah, especially with larger iPhones (even sub-Max) I've come to see an iPad as increasingly optional for most purposes.

Yes, I would agree. I use an iPad Pro for 3D modeling as well as drawing and graphic design. For those applications (especially 3D modeling) the M1 and large screen make a massive difference.

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Post by HumblyTossed »

pavlov wrote: post #9

The last time Apple introduced a new general purpose computing device was the iPad, 14 years ago. This one just doesn’t feel as big. When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. Those are exactly the weak points of the Vision Pro: it’s very expensive and very heavy, according to reports. The hands-on sessions that Apple…

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Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by chongli »

NBJack wrote: post #129
zarzavat wrote: post #71

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The things that the iPhone was criticised for - no 3G was the biggest one - were easily fixed in the next iteration. The problems with the vision pro seem more fundamental, primarily cost. Apple really needs to sell it with zero margin or as a loss leader to build marketshare because $3000 is absurd and will really damage its branding "weird face hugger for rich people"

I think they are in part counting on it as a status symbol. iPhone, iPad, and a few others are ubiquitous in the US market. Additonally, they kinda "blend in" amidst competitor devices with similar designs. But the Vision Pro will be eye- catching and hard to miss, with a large profile and unique design. Time will tell if it works.

Going straight for the high end of the market is risky when you depend on developer ecosystems for value. The iPhone was expensive at launch but didn’t really take off until it added the App Store and came down in price.

If they get a handful of celebrities walking around with these things it may become a status symbol. Or it may become a joke, especially if somebody crashes their Ferrari while wearing one.

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Post by globalise83 »

pavlov wrote: post #9

The last time Apple introduced a new general purpose computing device was the iPad, 14 years ago. This one just doesn’t feel as big. When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. Those are exactly the weak points of the Vision Pro: it’s very expensive and very heavy, according to reports. The hands-on sessions that Apple…

I see this as in the same category as 3D TV. Unless they're really into air combat simulations or use it professionally for some kind of visualisations, I can't see people wanting to sit on their couch with a big headset on. I would be interested to try it, but will wait for a rich friend to buy it first.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by drcongo »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #113
tiffanyh wrote: post #36

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> When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. I remember history a bit differently. I recall lots of people dismissing the iPad as " just a big iPod Touch".

The iPod Touch was a highly successful product; if that was supposed to be a dismissal it wasn't a very effective one.

I'm not sure it's a dismissal, as in "an iPod Touch with a big screen" is quite a good pitch. Like even now, if we ever get 16" iPads it's just an iPad with a massive screen, but I'd be all over it.

edit: so yeah, I agree with you

Re: Apple Vision Pro available for pre-order

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Post by Clubber »

NKosmatos wrote: post #89
PedroBatista wrote: post #42

It's an expensive toy for rich people. The good news for Apple: there are quite a few rich people in the World and Apple is a respected brand. I also thought the Apple Watch was a gimmick, but apparently they have been selling tons of those. This Vision Pro thing is different from the watch but also might not be that different, just "up scale".

So true. The same is valid for many other (almost ridiculous) expensive items: watches, bags, shoes, cars, wines, perfumes… There are many rich people out there that need to differentiate themselves from us plebeians :-)

I recently watched a video that speculated that middle class people mostly bought those designer brands to appear rich. Rich people generally don't need/want Gucci and whatnot plastered all over their person. I'd buy that argument.

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Post by newshorts »

pavlov wrote: post #9

The last time Apple introduced a new general purpose computing device was the iPad, 14 years ago. This one just doesn’t feel as big. When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. Those are exactly the weak points of the Vision Pro: it’s very expensive and very heavy, according to reports. The hands-on sessions that Apple…

When I saw the iPad demo on that stage with Steve Jobs I thought: it’s a big iPod for old people to look at pictures. Meh.

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Post by al_borland »

tiffanyh wrote: post #36
pavlov wrote: post #9

The last time Apple introduced a new general purpose computing device was the iPad, 14 years ago. This one just doesn’t feel as big. When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. Those are exactly the weak points of the Vision Pro: it’s very expensive and very heavy, according to reports. The hands-on sessions that Apple…

> When the iPad was introduced, everyone was shocked by the very low price and the sleek form factor compared to previous Windows tablet devices. I remember history a bit differently. I recall lots of people dismissing the iPad as " just a big iPod Touch".

There were also a significant number of jokes about the name, relating it to a feminine hygiene product.

I bought one day 1 and pretty much everyone thought I was nuts and just an Apple zealot. However, as I took it places and used it, people saw it and became much more interested and took it more seriously as a product.

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