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Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Post by homefree »

konschubert wrote: post #133
homefree wrote: post #123

The actual quote: > "Our long term vision is to build general intelligence, open source it responsibly, and make it widely available so everyone can benefit." "responsibly" is a pretty important word there that the hn title leaves out. I'm not really sure how that would be possible with a true general intelligence give the alignment problem - it's not really clear to me there's any responsible way to build a true gen…

I am a general intelligence, with the knowledge of the internet at my fingertips, and I am not particularly dangerous.

Human intelligence is not the limit of intelligence (or likely even close to it) - even if just considering the speed alone.

Humans are also more aligned by default given our shared evolutionary history, but even that doesn't mean we're perfectly aligned and some humans have been able to get others to participate in mass killing or death throughout history.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Post by two_in_one »

sublinear wrote: post #82

Can someone provide insight into why there's so much insistence from business that magic happens at scale with LLMs? We're a long way from AGI. The lack of meaningful details in these announcements makes me pessimistic.

> why there's so much insistence from business that magic happens at scale with LLMs

It's already happening. See latest Google layoffs. They are automating a lot of things. Most people don't realize it, but the change is going to be dramatic.

> We're a long way from AGI

This is a big question, what is AGI? LLMs are quite generic and 'intelligent'. Not human-like, but. Next is going to be incremental evolution. Till we find other, non-verbal, ways of 'thinking' and put them together. That's going to be a breakthrough. Interesting, terminator-like embodiment isn't a requirement for AGI, nor is stable 'personality'.

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Post by wtbdrgb »

homefree wrote: post #123

The actual quote: > "Our long term vision is to build general intelligence, open source it responsibly, and make it widely available so everyone can benefit." "responsibly" is a pretty important word there that the hn title leaves out. I'm not really sure how that would be possible with a true general intelligence give the alignment problem - it's not really clear to me there's any responsible way to build a true gen…

> open source it responsibly

Responsibility always refers to the in-group. And the behavioral nudges his company has scored are making it obvious that he and his group are against organic growth and variety. So whatever they will "open source" will leave the narrowest of ranges to evolve from.

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Post by gumballindie »

hackernoteng wrote: post #99

Why open source it? Just another virtue signal while their real motivation is something more sinister? They are a for-profit publicly owned company. Are investors happy about spending billions to open-source it?

I think their investors should be happy about it. Once more open source models are released, a lot of ai companies will be freed to focus on other things, thus increasing the overall economy.

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Post by jiggawatts »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #95

My money has been on Meta for AGI since they started training people to label data for them (tag your friends!) Between all their properties they have more instrumentation on humans, collecting human behavior trajectories and state action pairs transfer learning and inverse RL than anyone - and it’s not even a close second Specifically and critically I think they likely have the largest egocentric multimodal labeled…

The quality of the data matters a lot. Textbooks, scientific papers, etc… are substantially better for training smart and capable LLMs than random social chit-chat.

Google and Microsoft both have a lot of corporate info, including source repositories they can legally use.

Google has Google Books, Maps, and YouTube.

Microsoft has Azure, GitHub, LinkedIn, etc…

Facebook has… what? Instagram? Your crazy aunt screaming about her conspiracy of the week?

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Post by itishappy »

konschubert wrote: post #133
homefree wrote: post #123

The actual quote: > "Our long term vision is to build general intelligence, open source it responsibly, and make it widely available so everyone can benefit." "responsibly" is a pretty important word there that the hn title leaves out. I'm not really sure how that would be possible with a true general intelligence give the alignment problem - it's not really clear to me there's any responsible way to build a true gen…

I am a general intelligence, with the knowledge of the internet at my fingertips, and I am not particularly dangerous.

I don't think you're looking honestly at yourself... Look at all the harm caused by humans! It's more or less all of it!

You might not be uniquely dangerous, but "general intelligence with an internet connection" describes Bill Gates, Rupert Murdoch, and Elon Musk just as well. These individuals seem at least as dangerous as our current generation of AI. (Or do they? I'm not sure I agree with myself here...)

Worth considering what makes an intelligence dangerous, because I don't think scale or even influence are the real problems here.

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Post by NavinF »

rvnx wrote: post #71
nickthegreek wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You never heard of the Quest 3?

Not at all, but it makes sense if it's a niche product addressing the needs of a subset of gamers. Look for example Among US VR (an excellent game): https://steamdb.info/app/1849900/charts/ There are 12 players online now, 22 players "peak"... A lot of people have tried VR, and the consensus is generally that VR is fun to try once but then: Is it really worth spending 1000 USD (headset only + whatever gaming PC you n…

"Am I out of touch? No, it's the >20 million buyers who are wrong"

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Post by colordrops »

airstrike wrote: post #128
ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #101

I love facebook. I hate other big tech companies. Facebook has done far more for software than any other company in the last 15 years. They: 1. Pushed salaries up across the board. Many people are not aware, but facebook was a major driver behind the 500k+ senior engineering pay. 2. Released major open source software: PyTorch, React, GraphQL, React Native. They basically invented modern web development. Facebook is…

Don't forget LLaMa

Wasn't llama initially a leak?

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Post by notatoad »

konschubert wrote: post #133
homefree wrote: post #123

The actual quote: > "Our long term vision is to build general intelligence, open source it responsibly, and make it widely available so everyone can benefit." "responsibly" is a pretty important word there that the hn title leaves out. I'm not really sure how that would be possible with a true general intelligence give the alignment problem - it's not really clear to me there's any responsible way to build a true gen…

I am a general intelligence, with the knowledge of the internet at my fingertips, and I am not particularly dangerous.

but I would be, if i could make a couple million copies of you and direct them to do whatever i wanted.
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