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Posthog is closing their Slack community in favor of forum

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Re: Posthog is closing their Slack community in favor of forum

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I wish all software products would do that. Chat applications are like a busy town square where everybody is yelling into the crowd and important information doesn't survive the moment, while a discussion forum will eventually grow into a public library which preserves information and makes it searchable (assuming that search engines have access to the information of course).

Huh? Have you not used the search feature in Slack or Discord? Whether it's a forum or a chat, the data structure is largely the same, especially with Slack/Discord as they have threads.

Come on. Discord or slack is like a forum where you have every post ever made on a topic in a single thread, 92,000 pages long. Sure, you can use search, but the nature of chat means that once you find one message (say, where a question was asked) you have to then skim through other discussions also going on at the time — often many of them — wondering if anyone answered the question, or if the discussion might continue after each interruption.

It’s okay for some applications I guess, but it’s the worst replacement for a forum, wiki, or knowledge base I’ve ever seen.

Re: Posthog is closing their Slack community in favor of forum

#152

For me, Reddit is basically my forum of choice (yes, the "old" version is in fact a forum). You can concat several subreddits together that recreate the forum experience of yesteryear. For instance one of the many I follow daily: https://old.reddit.com/r/AZURE+CCDE+Intune+PowerShell+ccnp+m... Not the greatest but it gets the job done (mostly)

Neat trick!

Re: Posthog is closing their Slack community in favor of forum

#153

I wish all software products would do that. Chat applications are like a busy town square where everybody is yelling into the crowd and important information doesn't survive the moment, while a discussion forum will eventually grow into a public library which preserves information and makes it searchable (assuming that search engines have access to the information of course).

Huh? Have you not used the search feature in Slack or Discord? Whether it's a forum or a chat, the data structure is largely the same, especially with Slack/Discord as they have threads.

I’ve never succeeded with slack chat. Basically I just have to remember when a conversation happened and go to that time and scroll until I see it. Even if I remember most of the words of a message I’m searching for.

Outlook is the reigning champion of terrible search, but don’t Slack is the runner up.

Re: Posthog is closing their Slack community in favor of forum

#154

I wish all software products would do that. Chat applications are like a busy town square where everybody is yelling into the crowd and important information doesn't survive the moment, while a discussion forum will eventually grow into a public library which preserves information and makes it searchable (assuming that search engines have access to the information of course).

Huh? Have you not used the search feature in Slack or Discord? Whether it's a forum or a chat, the data structure is largely the same, especially with Slack/Discord as they have threads.

> Have you not used the search feature in Slack or Discord?

I have. Discord, in particular, has the worst search function I've ever seen in my life, or close to it.

Re: Posthog is closing their Slack community in favor of forum

#155
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Speaking as someone who had to maintain a Discourse instance for two years: It’s mature and proven but still a lot of work to maintain. We went away from Discourse because it was not a reasonable use of time and not trivial - so you needed someone with dev skills to take care of it.

What are the alternatives that are less work to maintain?

Slack was the alternative. We use a service that creates a static page from all Slack conversations so this way we have a searchable index and can work around the messages disappearing due to the free plan. There are other limitations but it works well enough for a community of about 4-5000.

Re: Posthog is closing their Slack community in favor of forum

#156

Slack is reviewing and canceling long-standing discounts these days, so there’s going to be many more instances where companies are no longer willing to pay $$ per user per month instead of hosting a forum.

It never made sense to pay per user for a public support-oriented slack. Internal slack with a finite number of people, that's another matter.

It could make sense, at the time, if your support staff were on Slack, and you had high hopes for community engagement, and Slack offered discounts to get you hooked.

Re: Posthog is closing their Slack community in favor of forum

#157

I hope this is the beginning of a trend. Depending on some third party to manage my communications with a second party feels dirty and also forces me to clutter up my (in this case) Slack setup. Discord is even more insane in this regard.

Discord is the one I struggle with. I have 30+ slack workspaces, but with the new design I can hide all of them except for the in context one. It's an improvement over the old UI. Discord still doesn't have this, I belong to 100+ discord servers, and the notifications are a pure nightmare, impossible to find the server you want.

The new Slack UI is atrocious, especially with many workspaces. It's a screen for screen copy of Microsoft's Teams and I wish I was exaggerating!

Re: Posthog is closing their Slack community in favor of forum

#159
Seriously, a critical issue when deciding to use a forum software is security. Once a software is popular (or insecure by default) you are required inviting hackes while you are sleeping.

Security is very expensive and few companies have the budget and the attitude to be continuously awake and proactive.

Re: Posthog is closing their Slack community in favor of forum

#160
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"Only". I'm not into Discord in a big way, but this is propping up my reasoning as to why I don't like it. Being forced to join a server to browse it and having that shared with others is as bad as being forced to login to Twitter/X. Not to mention that conversations on Discord don't get indexed on Google, so finding solutions for some problems is an exercise in frustration.

reminds me of that site 'experts-exchange.com' which was a pre-StackOverflow login-only forum that nonetheless used to top Google search results. HN would have hated it. I'm surprised Discord gets a pass here.

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