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Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Post by jve »

ddxv wrote: post #35

Possibly not related, but my past two Samsungs have had this feature and it drives me crazy. Usually they seem to trigger when using non standard cords and from 0% battery life. This means that I get a very loud warning sound triggering when trying to charge my phone from a battery pack or borrowing someone's cord. Oddly, charging when on (ie not completely dead), this feature doesn't trigger the alarm. I really disl…

Throw those non-standard cords (and low quality chargers) in the bin. And going to 0% charge is also bad for other reasons like battery longevity.

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Post by SushiHippie »

blackbeans wrote: post #126
Larrikin wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sony phones with headphone jacks, ten years ago were capable of all waterproof things you wanted to do. It's been a massive gaslighting campaign.

Same thing with the Samsung S5 from 2014. IP67 waterproof with headphone jack and removable battery.

And don't forget the IR blaster, so you could control most of TVs. And IIRC it was the first Samsung phone with fingerprint reader. I miss that phone.

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Post by baz00 »

buro9 wrote: post #102
donatj wrote: post #80

Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack for this?

My android pixel 7 reported water ingress in the usb port during a hike to kinder scout in the peak district (UK). It was raining lightly, but mostly there was a very thick fog / mist / drizzle that didn't really fall from the sky or land on you, rather it enveloped and coated you such that you were soaked. I'd only removed my phone from my waterproof jacket pocket on two occasions to verify GPS location as I was sti…

Conversely my iPhone 13 Pro was taken all round the world and been soaked through, frozen and dropped tens of times in snow and a river. The clear TPU case looked like a water puzzle on a regular basis.

Apple replaced the battery in it last week without a whimper and I expect they would do the same in the future.

If I did this to my MacBook they probably would not. Which is the point.

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Post by tsbinz »

oez wrote: post #137
adonese wrote: post #132

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I really am super pissed that we let go of removable batteries

We didn't let them go, they were taken from us by force

That is a questionable statement, as there were phones with removable batteries and phones without them on the market for quite some time and the phones with removable batteries were simply not successful enough.

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Post by pmontra »

millzlane wrote: post #20
gumby wrote: post #13

FWIW i just looked at the specs online and the iphone 15 pro is rated to IP68 while the ipad-pro and MacBook Air specs are silent on this.

As far as I know, none of the computers are designed to be exposed to liquid at all.

Some laptops are advertised to have a spill resistant keyboards. My laptop from 2014 is one of them. I replaced the keyboard a few times because of key wear and yes, it seems to fit tightly enough to keep water away from the motherboard. Obviously water can get under the keys but the bottom of the keyboard seems to be sealed.

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Post by HPsquared »

winrid wrote: post #147
lostlogin wrote: post #107

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… which is water. It’s actually impressive how resilient phones are.

True, but regular water rarely harms circuit boards for a one time exposure. Salt water, or soda, on the other hand... What Apple really needs is a USBC taste tester :)

Maybe they could use some kind of "corrosion canary"... some piece of metal that will behave like the circuit components in a standard way.

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Post by ralfd »

yellow_lead wrote: post #105
ralfd wrote: post #103

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Water resistant is not water proof.

Not very resistant then

I simply don't understand this dense sneering snark.

The real world is analogue and not a binary on/off setting you click in a config file. "Make this thing indestructable"

There is an infinite sliding scale from normal air humidity to the corrosive wetness of a tropical rainforest near a saltwater ocean or the difference being splashed with a few raindrops to being submerged for 100 years at the Mariana Trench.

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Post by Someone »

chris_wot wrote: post #88
millzlane wrote: post #21

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Most of the liquid spills I see are from people carrying water bottles in their bags with the laptop.

I can confirm. I work at a school with a massive fleet of Macs. The kids generally kill their devices with water by keeping their water bottle in the same bag as their MacBook. Doesn’t matter how often I tell them not to, they insist on doing this.

What do you expect them to do instead? Carry two bags? Keep the bottle in their hand at all times? I think both are highly inconvenient.

There are backpacks with bottle holders on the outside, but in my experience, those aren’t very good at holding a bottle.

Not bringing a bottle probably is the best option, but that may not be a good option in very hot climates.

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Post by izacus »

astrange wrote: post #68
izacus wrote: post #49

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They'll save money on warranty repairs in that case - by blaming your mom for a water spill - so it'll all work out for them. It's not even a new trick, some scammy repair companies here in Europe loved to claim water damage to avoid warranty repairs.

There are tabs inside the device that change color on water intrusion for that.

Turns out it's impossible to prove what state those water tabs were in before the device was opened by a technitian in the back room ;)

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Post by grishka »

microtonal wrote: post #146
grishka wrote: post #141

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Same for sanely-sized screens. It really sucks for someone who doesn't watch any videos on their phone and still treats it mostly as a limited communication device rather than their primary gateway to the internet. The fact that I'm a relatively compact person doesn't help either.

The iPhone 12/13 Mini was substantially smaller, but few people bought it, so they cancelled it. The vast majority seem to want large screens. Currently the only compromise are flip phones. I considered buying the Z Flip 5, but the screen protector needs to be replaced by Samsung to maintain warranty and there is no Samsung Store nearby. I asked and Samsung said I'd have to send it to them, losing my phone for a coup…

iPhones run iOS and, honestly, I can't stand it for a variety of reasons regardless of how nice the hardware is. Main one being that apps can only be installed from the app store. I can see myself using a jailbroken iPhone, but jailbreaks are hard to come by these days.

Vast majority doesn't know what they want. They would convince themselves that whatever is currently sold must be good. But then I know at least 10 people who truly want a small phone. I'm not the only one. There's clearly a demand for phones for people for whom their computer is still their primary device.

The world would've been a better place if every single phone manufacturer didn't copy the others. It's a vicious circle.

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