Sea Shepherd puts it well: How to save the ocean: 1) Don't eat marine animals 2) Be a voice for marine animals 3) Repeat steps 1 and 2
So you don't eat fish... twice?
Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline
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#152I have family working as a UN advisor on sustainable food chains and she says the entire ecosystem in the oceans could potentially collapse in 10 to 20 years if we don't stop large scale fishing entirely, especially trawl and unreported fishing destroying the seafloor and acidity going haywire. I have no idea if this is correct but i'm pretty sure around 1 billion rely on this food and can't imagine what would happen…
I read a lot about these sort of bleak predictions from people very in the weeds on the topics, but rarely see it being surfaced in a way that's easily citeable. I've seen second hand reports that the Amazon rain forest will experience it's tipping point within the next 3-5 years no matter what happens and even that it's already tipped, but we haven't figured it out yet. Frustrating that such dire claims aren't widel…
The public simply refuses to believe the truth. Facts don’t matter anymore in the public discourse.
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#153Tuna (horrific overfishing) and octopus (intelligence) are the two animals I won't eat.
Amusing anecdote - I used to eat octopus whenever I could get my hands on it, but always as an ingredient in a larger dish - e.g. chunks of octopus in a stew or sauce. One day I ordered octopus tentacle from a tapas bar, and it arrived whole (and beautifully presented as a centerpiece of sorts). This surfaced many memories of nature documentaries demonstrating the wit and resilience of the octopus. Looking at the del…
Pigs are smart too. Octopuses at least don’t live very long in the wild either.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pescatarian diets are as healthy or more healthy than vegetarian or vegan ones, and much easier to adhere to in terms of getting the required proteins and amino acids.
Can you point out any vegan/vegatarian suffering from an amino acid imbalance (while eating an isocaloric amount of food; i.e., not starving)? Even a case study would do to demonstrate your point.
https://bmcnutr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40795-02...
“In conclusion, our study showed that many vegan diets in the present survey failed to meet the daily protein intake requirements, both on single days and on all three days. Furthermore, the diets were particularly limited by the essential amino acids lysine, the sulphur-containing amino acids, leucine and valine.”
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#155https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_pigeon Passenger pigeons were hunted by Native Americans, but hunting intensified after the arrival of Europeans, particularly in the 19th century. Pigeon meat was commercialized as cheap food, resulting in hunting on a massive scale for many decades. There were several other factors contributing to the decline and subsequent extinction of the species, including shrinking of th…
The worlds fisheries are almost universally mismanaged.
Which reminds me of a conversation with a relative of mine from the Eastern shore of Va. He worked for a company that caught Horseshoe Crabs. These crabs were then ground up and used for bait to catch Conch. I pointed out to him that down the street from his company was another company that caught and released Horseshoe Crabs. They used their blood to produce medicine at great profit. Since that time Va has sadly had to place restrictions on harvesting Horseshoe Crabs. So not only did we over fish Horseshoe Crabs - we did it to over fish Conch.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
>That is something that can be done at a local level without global cooperation. You're assuming some foreign operator won't come to your local waters to illegally fish. China has shown they will fish literally anywhere they can get away with it. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/ch...
Read that article again closer, paying attention to separate the examples of illegal behavior from simply fishing. "Much of what China does, however, is legal — or, on the open seas at least, largely unregulated." -- quote from your link. Fishing "right up to the exclusive economic zone", means you're in international waters and can fish freely. They continue their activities because there are no legal means to stop…
Aren't there international treaties regulating fishing in international waters? I know they exist but not sure if they're weak and vague. That is what we need but not realistic to happen in today's geopolitical climate
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/155982761142576... This is an extensive review of many papers from 10 years ago, most data agrees that vegetarian diet is considerably healthier. More modern literature merely adds that if you go full vegan you need to eat quite some if you want to preserve lean mass.
I clicked on a few at random. I saw vegetarianism "with comprehensive lifestyle changes" in one case. "Well-planned" vegan meals compared to a standard (less planned) omnivore diet in another. Obviously, physically active vegetarians who carefully consider their diet (and eat specifically balanced non-ultraprocessed food) compares well to 100% fast food eating couch potatoes. Also obviously, it's far easier to have a…
There's also the Stanford twins experiment where the omnivore diet is also very healthy.[1]
There's plenty of Harvard studies too.
There's an abundance of literature that meat causes cancer, cardiovascular diseases, etc, but people aren't different to 50s smokers.
Seriously. It's so obvious that cattle farming is among the most earth destroying activities but people prefer not to see, because it impacts their life. Easier to she'll 50k on a Tesla to feel good.
Also, just to point out, I'm not a vegan, all I'm saying is that meat should be heavily limited, which is what I do myself.
[1] https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2023/11/twin-diet-veg...
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/155982761142576... This is an extensive review of many papers from 10 years ago, most data agrees that vegetarian diet is considerably healthier. More modern literature merely adds that if you go full vegan you need to eat quite some if you want to preserve lean mass.
Associated != causal Most people who are vegan are more likely to be health conscious
Comparisons have been made with both diets being healthy, extremely low meat diets consistently come on top for anything but caloric intake and lean mass preservation, which aren't the primary health concerns for people following the average diet anyway.
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#159I wonder if we could police the ocean with automated seafaring drones.
Only if they are armed and you’re willing to go to war over fish.
No, this is overblown.
The drones just travel around the ocean scanning for illegal fishing. When they detect it, they determine who owns the vessel and send them a bill for fines. People respond to fines.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. Why can't someone get as fat and unhealthy with a vegan diet? I'm friends with vegans who eat a LOT of processed foods - Gardein crispy tenders, Carl's Jr. for Beyond Burgers, etc. > And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups. How much of this is attributable to a specific diet vs highlighting that those who care about wha…
> Why can't someone get as fat and unhealthy with a vegan diet? Don’t know about “unhealthy”, but “fat” is actually less likely, according to a research: “our results suggest that self-identified semivegetarian, lactovegetarian, and vegan women have a lower risk of overweight and obesity than do omnivorous women. The advice to consume more plant foods and less animal products may help individuals control their weight…
In a society where these diets buck the norm, I expect some of this effect is just from paying more attention to what one eats. It's a major mechanism behind lots of restrictive diets working for weight loss—paying more attention to food helps all on its own.
I bet there are people out there who eat semi-vegetarian diets basically by accident, who wouldn't think to label themselves semi-vegetarian, and that the beneficial effect is less pronounced among them.