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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by baz00 »

4ad wrote: post #72
AdrianB1 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I owned almost a dozen Dacia's, but not the Logan. I never got to a car shop for any repairs until I had one with warranty, otherwise I was doing all the repairs on my own, including engine rebuilds and even a chassis swap (brand new car totalled in a crash, bough a new chassis and swapped every single part to it). So, labor was cheap, parts were cheap, cost of ownership was cheap :)

Sounds like you are not valuing your time.

I’ve found that for basic service stuff it takes less time and cost than futzing with garages.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by numpad0 »

lox wrote: post #44
m463 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All this should be recommended in the UI. The car DOES have maintenance needs. Lots of people in models X & S are surprised to find their seemingly ok tires are NOT OK because they wear very quickly on the non-visible inside edge. there are brakes on the car, which have pads and fluid. There is coolant for the battery. Honestly, there should be a maintenance screen in the UI. You should be able to replace tires, or w…

There is a service screen in the UI with alerts and details on when tires were last changed. There is an alert for windshield fluid.

If Apple made a car, I would expect "Preferences -> Logbook -> ["Show logs", "Add Service Record...", "Save in PDF"]" menu, never heard Tesla have one in Settings menu.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by Avshalom »

Dinux wrote: post #32

Sofar I've owned 4 Tesla cars and never had any serious issues that were not addressed immediately. My current Model Y had a cracked roof, they replaced the glass within a couple or hours. Here in The Netherlands inspections are mandatory for all cars every 1/2 years. I've noticed the tires may not be as durable as they should be but no idea how they stack up against another EV. Anything you use and use a lot needs m…

>never had any serious issues that were not addressed immediately.

okay but how many serious issues have you had?

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by Avshalom »

arpinum wrote: post #102

This is not about failure rates or an indication of quality. This is faults found during a scheduled inspection. Normally this means finding faults that occur since the last maintenance interval. If a car has a long or no maintenance interval (like Tesla) then more faults are expected. Also note that failure can mean windshield wiper needing replacement or headlight re alignment rather than a premature part failure.

This year Tesla is ranked middle of the pack by CR but '21 and '22 it was bottom 5 for reliability, not to mention that whole Rueters article from last week.

Like this isn't the data point.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by madaxe_again »

europeanNyan wrote: post #77
hef19898 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Picking VW as an example for Infotainment is the equivalent of picking Tesla for reliability: a way to show how not to do it.

I can vouch that Dacia or Renault is not any better and serve as a pure gateway to Apple Carplay.

VW don’t even support CarPlay though. I am stuck with an android POS that literally does nothing other than take up dashboard space, and a phone glued to the front of it. Can’t even listen to music as the tuner has never worked, and Bluetooth has a range of about 2cm. Dealer said it’s working as intended.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by willis936 »

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote: post #134
seshagiric wrote: post #127

My experience as a Model Y owner: What works: - best in class software quality. Both various controls (lights, wipers, electronic parking brake etc.) and infotainment work just right. - Navigation is quite good, especially considering it automatically adds/ suggests charging locations as needed. - Steering assist (automatic lane and speed control) is quite handy. I never felt the need for trying out autopilot. What d…

>Price drops. Cars depreciate but to have a $10-15K price drop right after I purchased really sucked. For this reason alone, I will never buy a Tesla again. Aren't all cars like that?

I bought a GTI in 2018 for $28k. I could fetch North of $20k for it today. Granted its light mileage (37.5k miles). It's still held its value because it was a sub-$30k popular vehicle in a good year for reliability and going into a period of car scarcity.

The big factor is how far above the $30k floor do you reach. A rav4 hybrid keeps a much higher percentage of its value than a rav4 prime.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by paganel »

fancazzista wrote: post #156

Well, at least the Dacia Logan parts are cheap as peanuts and readily available. Plus, the mechanics inside are simpler and you can find a repair shop pretty much everywhere.

I think there’s also a reporting bias, for example I refuse to believe that Dacias have fewer nitpicks than Alfas, for example, it’s just that Alfa owners might be more ok with ignoring said nitpicks (ask me how I know, lol).

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by zuhsetaqi »

arpinum wrote: post #143
haeffin wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think there's a longer interval between inspections for Teslas? The interval for Hauptuntersuchung in Germany (which this article is about) is 2 years (except for the first one which happens after 3 years), regardless of car brand. And a windshield wiper needing replacement wouldn't count as a "significant fault" that they force you to come back for before getting certified.

Inspection interval is the same, but maintenance interval is different.

And this is about inspection interval.
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