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Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by medo-bear »

vshymanskyy wrote: post #148
medo-bear wrote: post #145

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In my country we have alot of male Ukranians who have come to escape conscription. The attitude they have to the war is not very romantic. One of the companies I contract for has developers in Ukraine who are constanly hiding from conscription (ie changing location within Ukraine) because leaving now is too risky. So I wonder how does a person who is engaged in the war effort (you do military tech research) see this

I see it similarly. It's not easy, both for refugees and those who are still here in Ukraine. However, everyone has a unique story and reasons to see it in a specific light. I know a LOT of people who are hiding, and at the same are doing everything they can, donate and develop high-tech stuff for UAF. The world isn't black/white, however, we know for sure that we MUST do everything so that the russia is stopped and…

Thanks for responding. It is interesting that you work for the armed forces yet are aware of people who are hiding from conscription. Having experienced war I am aware how senseless it can become. People do not realize how terrible war can be, regardless of whose side you are on. Conscription is also a tool that is often used to get rid of undesireable people (ethnic minorities, opposition, etc). In my opinion forced conscription should be a war crime.

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by ponector »

mdavid626 wrote: post #137
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #122

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Ukraine is eating through ammo (mainly 155mm howitzer shells from what I understand) because the war is in a WWI-style stalemate due to the lack of air superiority at the front from either side. All they can do is pound each other over and over again along the front line. There's no way to advance. Likely if the west provided jets, this would change drastically. I actually agree Russia is not stupid enough to engage…

Do you really think Russia will give up the already occupied territories? Crimea? I think this could happen when Putin would be removed and NATO would deploy to Ukraine. Just sending more and more weapons will not change anything.

They already have given up lots of occupied territories. Guess why? Because of the advances of Ukrainian army. If west will send more weapons, without restrictions to use them against Russian army - all territory of Ukraine could be liberated from occupation.

If you think that west should give up and let Russians win and keep occupied territories - you should learn European history better.

Remember "peace for out time" agreement with Hitler in Munich 1938?

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

#153

Post by mdavid626 »

jnsaff2 wrote: post #146
mdavid626 wrote: post #134

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What are you talking about?

Well you seem to scared of nuclear blackmail to the point of giving up. Not only that, you publicly advocate for not helping Ukraine and condemning tens of millions of people to horrors is russian oppression. So you are doing kremlins work exactly as they wish for. You seem to understand that should we not help Ukraine then they will not stop. They still have nukes to keep scaring you. What is your strategy?

As I stated in my other comment, I don't think Russia would use nukes, only when their core existence is threatened. I'm not advocating to NOT to help Ukraine, I'm just trying to figure out what exactly is our plan. Which is still unclear. You and all others here have absolutely zero idea. I'm a very cautious person and before committing to sending more weapons, at least I'd like to know what is our strategy. How we're going to win? But of course, it's also an option to send as many weapons as we can without any further strategy and let as many Ukrainians die as can, without even understanding what winning means. This is somehow the only accepted solution currently. And if you don't like that, then you are pro Russian fallen for Russian propaganda.

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by knorker »

matvore wrote: post #65
knorker wrote: post #43

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> it's easy to visually confirm everything is cleaned up. Yes and no. It's easy to not make a mistake in a function. It's basically impossible to not make this mistake in 1'000 functions. Especially as code evolves over time, being 99% perfect about this, or even 99.9% perfect, is just not good enough. Not nearly enough. And this reminds me of something Schneier said, that everyone can make a cryptographic algorithm…

> To prove a point, I spent an hour reading his opensource project > and found several resource leaks This is asking a lot, but if you enjoy that, I would be thrilled if you could do the same for some of my C projects - nusort and werm under github.com/matvore.

These days I have less time, and more obligations and side projects than time.

Doesn't hurt to ask, though. :-)

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

#156

Post by skinkestek »

medo-bear wrote: post #151
vshymanskyy wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see it similarly. It's not easy, both for refugees and those who are still here in Ukraine. However, everyone has a unique story and reasons to see it in a specific light. I know a LOT of people who are hiding, and at the same are doing everything they can, donate and develop high-tech stuff for UAF. The world isn't black/white, however, we know for sure that we MUST do everything so that the russia is stopped and…

Thanks for responding. It is interesting that you work for the armed forces yet are aware of people who are hiding from conscription. Having experienced war I am aware how senseless it can become. People do not realize how terrible war can be, regardless of whose side you are on. Conscription is also a tool that is often used to get rid of undesireable people (ethnic minorities, opposition, etc). In my opinion forced…

Forced conscription is the sad reality for many countries.

I was conscripted. I see it as my duty, a part of my social contract, a way to pay back to generations before who put their lives on the line in the fights for freedom.

I was lucky it was peacetime, but I am fully convinced I would have gone anyway as a young person without responsibility for children and citizen of a country worth fighting for.

For me (again as someone who served in peacetime in a peaceful country) it has been both educational and a career booster at points, it seems around here there are (civilian) jobs were military experience, even just conscription, is seen as a a major advantage or even a requirement.

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by deredede »

throwaway290 wrote: post #71
oytis wrote: post #23

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> For oligarchs and elites, yes only putting complete economic lockdown could work. No way to travel and buy yourself or your kids comfy western way of life. I don't think that can work. Russian elites absolutely value power over Western way of life. Sanctions are only needed to starve Russian economy to a point where it cannot finance war - and it has been a mixed success so far, but in principle can work.

> Russian elites absolutely value power over Western way of life some elites maybe, but their kids will only be after a couple of generations. It's one thing if you yourself cannot spend time in London but if your kids and relatives also cannot leave and buy a new iphone suddenly you have people to answer to.

There is something surreal about the idea that the war would end by taking away some rich kids' iPhones.

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

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Post by medo-bear »

skinkestek wrote: post #156
medo-bear wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for responding. It is interesting that you work for the armed forces yet are aware of people who are hiding from conscription. Having experienced war I am aware how senseless it can become. People do not realize how terrible war can be, regardless of whose side you are on. Conscription is also a tool that is often used to get rid of undesireable people (ethnic minorities, opposition, etc). In my opinion forced…

Forced conscription is the sad reality for many countries. I was conscripted. I see it as my duty, a part of my social contract, a way to pay back to generations before who put their lives on the line in the fights for freedom. I was lucky it was peacetime, but I am fully convinced I would have gone anyway as a young person without responsibility for children and citizen of a country worth fighting for. For me (again…

What about someone that does not feel very "in debt"? Anyway by 'forced conscription' I mean mainly being forced to pick up a weapon and placed into a situation of kill or be killed by someone who was also put into that same situation by the opposing side

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

#159

Post by jnsaff2 »

mdavid626 wrote: post #153
jnsaff2 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you seem to scared of nuclear blackmail to the point of giving up. Not only that, you publicly advocate for not helping Ukraine and condemning tens of millions of people to horrors is russian oppression. So you are doing kremlins work exactly as they wish for. You seem to understand that should we not help Ukraine then they will not stop. They still have nukes to keep scaring you. What is your strategy?

As I stated in my other comment, I don't think Russia would use nukes, only when their core existence is threatened. I'm not advocating to NOT to help Ukraine, I'm just trying to figure out what exactly is our plan. Which is still unclear. You and all others here have absolutely zero idea. I'm a very cautious person and before committing to sending more weapons, at least I'd like to know what is our strategy. How we'…

It’s not hard to understand when a person is either fallen for russian propaganda or is an active troll.

Re: Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase

#160

Post by vshymanskyy »

medo-bear wrote: post #158
skinkestek wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forced conscription is the sad reality for many countries. I was conscripted. I see it as my duty, a part of my social contract, a way to pay back to generations before who put their lives on the line in the fights for freedom. I was lucky it was peacetime, but I am fully convinced I would have gone anyway as a young person without responsibility for children and citizen of a country worth fighting for. For me (again…

What about someone that does not feel very "in debt"? Anyway by 'forced conscription' I mean mainly being forced to pick up a weapon and placed into a situation of kill or be killed by someone who was also put into that same situation by the opposing side

You're comparing "both sides" as equal, however please consider that this is an unprovoked agression against Ukraine. Russians invaded the foreign territory and are killing and torturing civilians. On day 2, they sent dozens of mobile crematoriums towards my city. Yes, they were prepared to burn "non-conformist" civilians. Ukrainians, on the other hand, just don't want to be wiped out.
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